I got a web page set up for ya http://www.matmice.com/home/drunkinass
Hi Playa,
Do you really think that's appropriate content for the online equivalent of a playground for children?
I ask because the webmasters at matmice, three teenaged girls, have been very helpful at removing illegal crack software for me and because it seems to me like a betrayal of their goodwill. Even the page name you chose seems to violate their terms of service.
Plenty of other free homepage services exist. I wonder whether you might choose a different one and leave matmice for its intended use and audience?
this one is the easyest to use tho
I'm lost... Looking at playa's page I don't see what he could have possibly done to offend you Bob? What's the deal? :-\
Quote from: fatkid on May 09, 2004, 07:52:48 AM
I'm lost... Looking at playa's page I don't see what he could have possibly done to offend you Bob? What's the deal? :-\
I see what he is talking about. 3 girls have went to extreneous lengths for thousands of students, and adults who just want a simple home page, usually about themselves.
They did not intend their pages to use up bandwidth that only has links to programs. And, drunkinass for a name is unnacceptable in my eyes too, for 3 young ladies that have done amazing things.
MatMice TOS (http://www.matmice.com/tos.shtml)
At best, you only have the ass working for you... No pun intended...
"They cannot contain foul language, or anything which may be considered adult material."
Nowhere else does it say anything about wasting up their bandwidth to provide a page with links... For the rest of this argument all I really have to say is grow up... Bob you quoted it best once... "Don't sweat the small stuff. Everything is small stuff", or something to that nature... So he used the word ass... Uh ho... So he made a page to help distribute DJs auto programs... Oh dear... Now were getting into some heavy sh*t... Come on guys... Is there really enough here to look down on playa? He just wanted to make a friggin' website to help put out DJs autos... Just leave him alone... :P
*sigh*
Unless theres more to this than meets the eye which there probably is i have to agree with fatkid
and i find it strange that Bob would be concerned with the TOS of a website when his bussiness is makeing things that are in violation of the TOS of another site.I saw nothing wrong on that matmice page nor do i see anything wrong with what pogopal does i guess this is a case of one hand washing the other.
thats how i look at it transponder
Playa,
I have no doubt that a service intended for six, eight and ten year olds is easy to use. I don't see how that excuses you using up a resource offered for free for children or for leeching off the hard work of the three young women who created the service for free.
Are you suggesting you lack the necessary skill or the ability to acquire the necessary skill to create a similar page on geocities or at your local ISP? I have no doubt you can find other hosts that are easy enough for you to use.
If you want to be a drunken ass, go right ahead. There are appropriate places for doing that, and a playground for children is not one of them. Think about it.
Also think about the tragedy of the common and how your actions might someday deprive the children for whom these young women have toiled.
Quote from: fatkid on May 09, 2004, 08:09:49 AM
MatMice TOS (http://www.matmice.com/tos.shtml)
At best, you only have the ass working for you... No pun intended...
"They cannot contain foul language, or anything which may be considered adult material."
Nowhere else does it say anything about wasting up their bandwidth to provide a page with links... For the rest of this argument all I really have to say is grow up... Bob you quoted it best once... "Don't sweat the small stuff. Everything is small stuff", or something to that nature... So he used the word ass... Uh ho... So he made a page to help distribute DJs auto programs... Oh dear... Now were getting into some heavy sh*t... Come on guys... Is there really enough here to look down on playa? He just wanted to make a friggin' website to help put out DJs autos... Just leave him alone... :P
*sigh*
lol im about to turn into a fatkid fan, i love how your always down to earth 8)
Yes... Now I'm getting my own fan club too... Eat that DJ... ;)
OK... This is all I'm going to say for the rest of this argument... Some one much smarter, wiser, and dare I say sexier than myself said it, "Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics. It really doesn't matter who wins, because in the end, you're still retarded"
There, I've let it all out... Now let the playa bashing (as seems to happen every month or so) begin!
Come on Jeff and Bob... You two seem to be the best at it... So now that I've let it all out, just have at it... Let him really know how you feel... ::) I'm going out to find some of that crazy sin seed and then watch Dave Chappell... You all have a wonderful day...
Hi Fatkid,
One term of service is to maintain a corporate pretense of fairness. The other is for the protection of children.
Do you find them morally equivalent?
Quote from: fatkid on May 09, 2004, 10:56:05 AM
Yes... Now I'm getting my own fan club too... Eat that DJ... ;)
Hey now im not tryin to give points in a contest here :P
Why does DJ need another website to distribute his programs(which are great BTW). Isn't Pcheats distributing them for you - for free. I kinda agree with Bob on this one. Matmice is a website for children to create websites. As far as I know A-playa or XXX or whatever is a full grown drunken man. What happens when every Tom, dick, and harry abuse matmice? THEY CLOSE. Then where will the children make there sites. How simple is that. But then again, WTF do I know.
QuoteSome one much smarter, wiser, and dare I say sexier than myself said it, "Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics. It really doesn't matter who wins, because in the end, you're still retarded"
I've said that before but I didn't create that line..I wish i did though
I see absolutly nothing wrong with playa's site ::) and as for his name; you can say ass in pogo for god's sake.
Quote from: Element on May 09, 2004, 02:53:38 PM
I see absolutly nothing wrong with playa's site ::) and as for his name; you can say ass in pogo for god's sake.
I dont see a thing wrong with his site either, except for where it is posted. That Mat Mice was created and is ran by 3 young ladies. They intended the site to be aimed at people who want to create simple homepages for children.
Quotegrownups (parents & teachers)
Welcome to MatMice.com! Our website allows children to become part of the world wide web; not onlookers, but participants! The site allows children not only to build a homepage, but add it to the Internet easily. This section includes important information about MatMice for parents and teachers, such as details about the webmasters, Internet safety tips, our privacy policy, and our terms of service.
who's behind matmice?
This entire website was created by three sisters from Australia - Emily, Sarah, and Elise - without any adult assistance whatsoever. The site was originally started as part of a school project for Emily's computer studies course. To find out more about each of the girls, please visit the about section.
safety on the internet
MatMice is a safe place for children on the Internet. We ask you to discuss the following safety tips with your children/students before they start to build their homepage.
Only use your first name on the web (or a nickname is fine too!).
Never give out your home address, phone number, or the name or address of your school on the web and never put them on your homepage.
If you see something you think is unsafe at MatMice, email us and tell us.
privacy policy
The privacy of your children/students is important to us. We try to make sure that MatMice is a safe and enjoyable place for everyone; our privacy policy describes how we do this.
view our privacy policy
terms of service
In order to ensure that MatMice remains a suitable site for children, we have in place terms of service, a set of rules which must be agreed to before signing up for a homepage.
view our terms of service
QuoteHomepages cannot contain, or contain links to, material which is not suitable for viewing by visitors under the age of 18. They cannot contain foul language, or anything which may be considered adult material.
I viewed a page created by a 9 year old today, and if they stumble across playa's page...
THEY DONT NEED TO SEE "DRUNKINASS" IN THE TITLE.Geocities is not that much harder to work with than this.
And DJ... why dont you talk to Tom and have your programs added to the downloads page here on PogoCheats.net?
Problems Solved.
can we just all get along
Quote from: cgbcody on May 09, 2004, 06:21:25 PM
Quote from: cgbcody on May 09, 2004, 06:18:57 PM
Fatkid did you get your saying from this picture? (https://www.pogocheats.net/proxy/?http://www.rancidkoolaid.com/images/arguing.jpg)
Quote from: fatkid on May 09, 2004, 10:56:05 AM
it, "Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special Olympics. It really doesn't matter who wins, because in the end, you're still retarded"
This is only in reply to cgbcody, as I previously stated, I'm done with this thread... But thanks for the laughs everyone... ::)
I heard that saying once on IRC, if I remember correctly I was on irc.addictz.net in the chan #datavault... After that I found a website (www.f*ckyew.com to be exact) that had lots of photos like the one you posted, and I found that same pic listed there...
Well dj I for one ty for all the help and your down loads its not like you charge I say keep up the good work and yes you rock :-*
wow bob, where do you come up with this stuff? I would also complain about a drunken man in the balls at mc'd's too. But it is not something I would come up with out of thin air. And it might actually give me nightmares tonight. thanks
Hi YZ,
I am sorry if I upset your sleep. Good sleep is very important.
I did not come up with the analogy out of thin air. Matmice is the online equivalent of a plastic ball room. It is a place for children to play safely with moderate supervision. Parents need to trust that the content on matmice is appropriate. A webpage called drunkinass can only destroy that trust. If parents see a drunken ass in the plastic ball room, they will stop bringing their children there to play. Who gets harmed?
To me, Playa's webpage is such obviously inappropriate content for matmice that I am shocked by those coming to his defense. I can only conclude they ignored my request to think about the issue.
With that,
I don't see why anything else eeds to be said on the subject. I think people were arguing because he built the site for DJ (Who seems very well liked).
I see DJ's points and am not that far off from agreeing with him ::) besides no matter what is said on this topic DJ will always be a kool guy in my book 8)
I don't recall saying DJ is unkool. I recall saying his posts on this topic do not reflect well on him.
Fine, you bastards (that's ALL of you) dragged me back into this... Just one or two sentences and a quote or two are all I have to say...
Bob, just read through DJs first quote at 5:18:54pm... Specifically read the bold...
QuoteThanks, I'm glad you like my programs
Distribution is not a problem....My ftp is working just fine, 127MB got downloaded in just 1 week. Not bad for for not running any ads anywhere but here (if you want to call this advertisement). Like I've stated before playa has asked me if he could make a website with my programs and I told him he could. The only thing I disagree with is the name of the link, I suggest that playa takes the site down and opens one somewhere else if he still wants to have a website.
Quote from bob@pogopal
QuoteDJ,
What you are saying is your first reaction at 5pm was to defend and to justify Playa's inappropriate choice and to foist the burden of keeping matmice an appropriate play area onto the three young women who created the site, and that you have since suggested, at 8pm, that Playa find another location to host his site.
*sigh* Now I really am done even looking at this topic... Just too damn frustrating...
Well it seems to me that part of the problem has been solved. The website has been moved. Can we all move on from here?
Aplaya, I notice the site is still up. Have you canceled the account with matmice?
I am considering locking this topic.
yall need to drop this he had move to a different sever already so just drop the bashing back and forth
Quote from: bob@pogopal on May 10, 2004, 02:42:49 PM
I don't recall saying DJ is unkool. I recall saying his posts on this topic do not reflect well on him.
Did i ever say you said DJ was unkool umm NO, dont start that crap with me...i was just letting everyone know however you think this topic reflected on DJ; that it didnt matter to me ::)
Sorry guys topic is now locked. this is getting ugly if it isn't already.