I have been reading this story and it just blows my mind. According to news reports this woman is "fairly young ,single" and has 6 other children. She lives with her parents and had fertility treatments. Does anybody else see a problem here
:oo and stop already lol
Quote from: harley89 on January 30, 2009, 05:03:47 AM
Does anybody else see a problem here
Nope. I'd rather read about people having babies, than people killing them.
Come on now, they didn't even know about that hidden one. Actually most breeders with large batches like that try to get into the press for the freebies. I am figuring that we WILL see them a lot more in commercials for baby wipes and other baby products. The thing that stood out in the article about them that I read was that they have the same last name as the guy who attacked a reporter during an investigation into home scams. But I believe they are in jail.
Quote from: disneyland lady on January 30, 2009, 05:39:02 AM
Come on now, they didn't even know about that hidden one. Actually most breeders with large batches like that try to get into the press for the freebies. I am figuring that we WILL see them a lot more in commercials for baby wipes and other baby products. The thing that stood out in the article about them that I read was that they have the same last name as the guy who attacked a reporter during an investigation into home scams. But I believe they are in jail.
Were talking about humans. ::)
Well if she has 6 already an is due for more....in my opinion she pretty much is killing them. I mean what kind of life can she offer these children since she can't even afford to live on her own.
I havn't read this story an so I may be wrong here. But yeah for me I can't accept this - If she's doing rite by ALL children then good for her. But I dunno - jus a sad case to me.
There is a point of irresponsibility, though. It's too early to tell but having so many births at once dramatically increases the likelihood of cerebral palsy, etc. Implanting so many zygotes is not a behavior I'd consider in the best interest of the babies. They are here now so, of course, I wish them well, including long and healthy lives.
Dont get me wrong I perfer to hear about babies being born than aborted. But in this case i do wonder about the ethics of this. A single woman with six children. That is one issue. Next issue is from what i have been reading in embryo tranplant usually only 2 0r 3 are implanted. Alot of Drs are questioning the ethics of implanting 8. Women are conseled before the process that if the implants take that it is best to abort all but one. Which leads me to the question why not just implant 1. And I do agree that this young woman ability to provide for all these children is questionable. Fertility treatments are a great thing. Over my life i have had friends unable to have children and these would have given them that chance. But maybe it is time for guidelines to be set as to the use of it. I truly hope all these children have great lives. But as said before the 8 may face great difficulties from physical or mental handicaps and those can take time to appear.
Quote from: Squid on January 30, 2009, 06:23:58 AM
Implanting so many zygotes is not a behavior I'd consider in the best interest of the babies.
The doctor has to take some blame here in implanting so many viables. I guess there are doctors out there that do not take into consideration the life of a sibling of 14. My mother was one of 19 and left home in 8th grade just to stop having to "help" out all day. Not to mention that the NICU costs $2496 per night per child and it appears WE are footing the bill. Still consider her a breeder - someone who breeds just because she loves the attention. I think the term comes from differentiating between positive and negative parenting.
Implantation procedures cost a great deal of money. Implanting only one zygote does not have a HUGE likelihood of taking hold. THe odds go up with multiple implantations but 8 is carrying it way too far imho. Three really should do the trick. I know enough about this stuff to get me into trouble... I am no expert.
if you already have six children,why would you be trying for more/ hopefully the family is independently wealthy and wont be trying to mooch off the state they are in to support them all..
Quote from: Mistyeyed on January 30, 2009, 12:14:29 PM
if you already have six children,why would you be trying for more/ hopefully the family is independently wealthy and wont be trying to mooch off the state they are in to support them all..
The family lives in Whittier, CA and the mother is single and 33 years old in 2009. Reportedly works as a technician in a fertility clinic. Her father either filed or completed a bankruptcy 18 months ago per court sites. So I do not see them as independent. If she had it done at the clinic she works at, I hope it gives mothers who truly want a child pause to go to a different as they have to be even more contemptable if they employed her.
Here's the latest, just posted on Yahoo. Something ain't right here. It's suspicious. Take note of the part I put in bold below:
LOS ANGELES – The woman who gave birth to octuplets this week conceived all 14 of her children through in vitro fertilization, is not married and has been obsessed with having children since she was a teenager, her mother said.
Angela Suleman told The Associated Press she was not supportive when her daughter, Nadya Suleman, decided to have more embryos implanted last year.
"It can't go on any longer," she said in a phone interview Friday. "She's got six children and no husband. I was brought up the traditional way. I firmly believe in marriage. But she didn't want to get married."
Nadya Suleman, 33, gave birth Monday in nearby Bellflower. She was expected to remain in the hospital for at least a few more days, and her newborns for at least a month.
A spokeswoman at Kaiser Permanente Bellflower Medical Center said the babies were doing well and seven were breathing unassisted.
While her daughter recovers, Angela Suleman is taking care of the other six children, ages 2 through 7, at the family home in Whittier, about 15 miles east of downtown Los Angeles.
She said she warned her daughter that when she gets home from the hospital, "I'm going to be gone."
Angela Suleman said her daughter always had trouble conceiving and underwent in vitro fertilization treatments because her fallopian tubes are "plugged up."
There were frozen embryos left over after her previous pregnancies and her daughter didn't want them destroyed, so she decided to have more children.
Her mother and doctors have said the woman was told she had the option to abort some of the embryos and, later, the fetuses. She refused.
Her mother said she does not believe her daughter will have any more children.
"She doesn't have any more (frozen embryos), so it's over now," she said. "It has to be."
Nadya Suleman wanted to have children since she was a teenager, "but luckily she couldn't," her mother said.
"Instead of becoming a kindergarten teacher or something, she started having them, but not the normal way," he mother said.
Her daughter's obsession with children caused Angela Suleman considerable stress, so she sought help from a psychologist, who told her to order her daughter out of the house.
"Maybe she wouldn't have had so many kids then, but she is a grown woman," Angela Suleman said. "I feel responsible and I didn't want to throw her out."
Yolanda Garcia, 49, of Whittier, said she helped care for Nadya Suleman's autistic son three years ago.
"From what I could tell back then, she was pretty happy with herself, saying she liked having kids and she wanted 12 kids in all," Garcia told the Long Beach Press-Telegram.
"She told me that all of her kids were through in vitro, and I said 'Gosh, how can you afford that and go to school at the same time?"' she added. "And she said it's because she got paid for it."
Garcia said she did not ask for details.
Nadya Suleman holds a 2006 degree in child and adolescent development from California State University, Fullerton, and as late as last spring she was studying for a master's degree in counseling, college spokeswoman Paula Selleck told the Press-Telegram.
Her fertility doctor has not been identified. Her mother told the Los Angeles Times all the children came from the same sperm donor but she declined to identify him.
Birth certificates reviewed by The Associated Press identify a David Solomon as the father for the four oldest children. Certificates for the other children were not immediately available.
The news that the octuplets' mother already had six children sparked an ethical debate. Some medical experts were disturbed to hear that she was offered fertility treatment, and troubled by the possibility that she was implanted with so many embryos.
Others worried that she would be overwhelmed trying to raise so many children and would end up relying on public support.
The eight babies — six boys and two girls — were delivered by Cesarean section weighing between 1 pound, 8 ounces and 3 pounds, 4 ounces. Forty-six physicians and staff assisted in the deliveries.
This just gets worse and worse - has a special needs child already and that sadly robs time from other children. I have a Johnny Depp obsession but know I can't handcuff him to my bed without repercussions. If she loves babies so much she really should have gotten a job at a daycare instead of a fertility clinic. Every one of us pogo nuts know about obsession and it is a strong drug but.............this gal has serious mental issues and her employer should have recognized this before they implanted her with a cupboard full.
When I was at Children's Services we had a case of a Mom early twenties with six kids, all different fathers. She would have a kid every couple of years because she loved babies, just babies, when the child started going into toddler stage she no longer was interested in them and had another baby, but neglected the older children. Yes, it is wonderful to want children, but you have to be able to take care of them, and with this amount of kids you better have a large support network, or Children's Services will be at your door. Just my opinion.
This is really sad. The more I read the more I believe that this woman has serious mental health issues. This clinic needs to be checked out and hopefully other women seeking help will go to other clinics. Not being able to have children is heartbreaking. My friends that could not have children all adopted sibling groups. But they will tell you to this day while they love the children they have and would not change the decision to adopt them. They would have loved to have had the chance to raise a infant. Sadly infants are rare for adoption. All my friends were told they could not even get on a waiting list. And this was 20 years ago. The fertility treaments are a wonderful advancement but in this case I believe it has been misused. Just because you can does not mean you should. And Drs have and still do make decisions based on ethics. My Grandmother has terrible diabetic problems. It reached a point were her foot needed to be amputaded. The surgeon talked with her and checked her out physically. He told my Mother and her siblings. Your Mother is dying she does not want this surgery. If you want it done you will have to find someone else to do it I wont. He made the right choice.
Quote from: harley89 on January 31, 2009, 08:06:06 AM
Not being able to have children is heartbreaking.
My son and his wife tried every expensive thing they could trying to give birth starting when she was in her early 30's. I kept bringing up how I would love a grandchild just as much if it was through adoption but she was intent on having her own. My son has his own business and she was working a good job so it did nothing to impact them financially compared to the impact emotionally every single month. Now she is 44 and was just told that she is too old for adopting a baby because those women who go thru the process of carrying the child rather than abortion are looking for someone who will be of a certain age. She would now be 57 when the child became a teen. I just hope she would consider all the adoptable "older than baby" children that are out there. Perhaps this is why I have anger issues with this story.
The health and well-being of those infants is of paramount importance. However, the expense to the taxpayers needs to be considered, also. Each of those infants is costing 100,000 dollars each DAY. They will be in the hospital for a long, long time. I want them to get the care they need but think some thought should have been given prior to implantation. $800,000 per day for months.... It's all just a little irresponsible, if you ask me. I was watching a doctor on the news last night who said it is a breach of medical ethics to implant more than two!
If this woman is on public assistance (and she will be if she isn't now), I'm really going to get ticked off.
edited to repair poor grammar.
My daughter went through fertility treatments, which is a painful process. The fertility Dr. stated it was something wrong with my daughter after testing her, and her alone. My Mom's heart ached for her, she had several Artificial Inseminations that did not take, and she and her husband separated over this. Her guilt was very high feeling it was her fault. They got back together and visited another Dr. other than the fertility who found out it was an infection in her husband which was treated with antibiotics.........a year later my only grandaughter was born. I am sure there are Fertility Clinics and Doctors who are reputable...........but this one was out to make a buck.
i havent read the whole story about this woman,but did she really want more children after having six all ready,or did she figure if she had more,thats more money she could milk out of the state...i live in PA and we got enough right here in the city i live in that do it just to get more benefits handed out to them..with the average joe and families trying to struggle through this times now,people that actually work for a living,it just irks me so that the government keeps handing out money to these people..
I believe it was the Carter Administration that removed the federal program called Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC) which went on until a child was age 18 and implimented Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) which has a 5 year lifetime limit per child. I know from a family member that the mother will be put in a program to learn a job and told they have one year to complete the program before there would be no more free income or free housing allowance. And the govt does exactly that.
If this grandmother does what she says and leaves when the babies come out of the hospital and the mother does not go back to work at the fertility clinic then all those kids - 14 of them times the monthly allotment for 5 years is what Calif is going to have to do.
Somehow there is always more assistance. Then when those 14 grow up if they are not all welll adjusted adults, they will need assistance for themselves as well as their spawn.
i have people like that next door to me....the "spawn" is on her second child already,and only 20 years old..drawing assistance...they did actually find her a job at Lowes,got her a car so she could get back and forth to work..then..she "conveniently" failed her drug test and fired her...so now,shes not working and got a car out of the deal...
The system needs overhauling. Big time.
QuoteThe single mother of octuplets born in California last week is seeking $2 million from media interviews and commercial endorsements to help pay the costs of raising the children, the London Times reported.
Nadya Suleman, 33, plans a career as a television childcare expert after it emerged last week that she already had six children before giving birth on Monday. She now has 14 children younger than 8.
Although still confined to a Los Angeles hospital bed, she intends to talk to two influential television hosts this week — media mogul Oprah Winfrey, and Diane Sawyer.
Her family has told agents she needs cash from media deals.
The mother of the longest-living octuplets in U.S. history is being deluged with offers for book deals, TV shows and other business proposals, but according to her publicist hasn't decided what she might do once she leaves the hospital.
On Friday she retained the Killeen Furtney Group public relations firm to handle what company President Joann Killeen says are hundreds of offers arriving by the day from all over the world. They include requests for paid interviews, TV show appearances, book deals and other opportunities.
Killeen says Suleman is "the most sought after mom in the world right now" but hasn't decided what she'll do next, other than care for her children.
Suleman's earning power, though, could be diminished by a growing ethical and medical controversy. Experts believe that the unnamed fertility specialists who gave her in vitro fertilization (IVF) should not have implanted so many embryos, and in choosing to carry all eight to term, Suleman ignored guidelines, risking both the babies' health and her own.
Public reaction has been mixed: Many have asked how an unemployed single mother can raise 14 children, as her first six have already strained the family budget. Angela and Ed Suleman, Nadya's parents, bought her a two-bedroom bungalow in the Los Angeles' suburb of Whittier in March 2007, but soon after fell on hard times and had to leave their own home.
I guess if you go on Oprah and Good Morning America that makes you a wonderful person, I am sorry but I think she is exploiting her kids and taking advantage of others.
I was born with a rare gentic condtion that makes me unable to have a child at all. No amount of fertility treaments or anything will make me able to carry a child.
Hubby and I looked into adopting overseas, and no way we could afford it. Infants are very rare.
This woman makes me sick. she has 6 perfectly good kids at home and she wants more? How is she paying for the first six? What was the docter thinking plating 8 embroys in her? Why not just 2 or 3? Why even do it in the first place if she's got 6 kids sitting at home?
What I can never understand is there are thousands of kids in foster care, right in our own country. Right in our own backyards. Yet people are willing to spend millions upon millions to adopt a baby to save them from a life in china, a life in india or even a life in poverty. But what about foster kids? Many of them come from backgrounds just as bad as those over in China or Africa.
Many of them are really great, sweet kids. They aren't looking for a perfect parent. They just want a forever family. What's more important, the pregnancy-which lasts last 9 months, or being a parent, which will last a life time?
My hubby and I adopted a sibling group out of foster care. We did the paper work, the homestudy everything. We were only expecting one child, we only got one bedroom ready. We got a call from our social worker asking if we'd be willing to adopt a sibling group. Great I thought, 2 or 3 kids. Boy was I wrong.
In three days we went from a childless couple to parents of five.
Ages 7, 9, 11, 13 and 15. All of them siblings that had been living in different foster homes across the state. Now 18 months later, we've seen first dates, first boy/girl friend, first prom, first driving lesson, first breakups, first day of school, first christmas together, parent teacher confernces, first parent/child fight, birthdays, the tooth fairy, staying up late for Santa, we've gone through all the normal stuff parents/kids/tweens/teens go through. Would hubby and I trade this for anything? No. Does the fact that my children are of hispanic/african descent and hubby and I are white? No. Does it bother them? No. Because we are family, thats why. I have enjoyed every minute of it, and will forever enjoy it.
God Bless you and your hubby. Your hearts are very big. I am sure 5 beautiful children have been made very happy because of you and your husband. That is beautiful. Thank God for people like you who can truly give these poor neglected children a home with love. embrace.gif
QuoteI was born with a rare gentic condtion that makes me unable to have a child at all. No amount of fertility treaments or anything will make me able to carry a child.
Hubby and I looked into adopting overseas, and no way we could afford it. Infants are very rare.
This woman makes me sick. she has 6 perfectly good kids at home and she wants more? How is she paying for the first six? What was the docter thinking plating 8 embroys in her? Why not just 2 or 3? Why even do it in the first place if she's got 6 kids sitting at home?
What I can never understand is there are thousands of kids in foster care, right in our own country. Right in our own backyards. Yet people are willing to spend millions upon millions to adopt a baby to save them from a life in china, a life in india or even a life in poverty. But what about foster kids? Many of them come from backgrounds just as bad as those over in China or Africa.
Many of them are really great, sweet kids. They aren't looking for a perfect parent. They just want a forever family. What's more important, the pregnancy-which lasts last 9 months, or being a parent, which will last a life time?
My hubby and I adopted a sibling group out of foster care. We did the paper work, the homestudy everything. We were only expecting one child, we only got one bedroom ready. We got a call from our social worker asking if we'd be willing to adopt a sibling group. Great I thought, 2 or 3 kids. Boy was I wrong.
In three days we went from a childless couple to parents of five.
Ages 7, 9, 11, 13 and 15. All of them siblings that had been living in different foster homes across the state. Now 18 months later, we've seen first dates, first boy/girl friend, first prom, first driving lesson, first breakups, first day of school, first christmas together, parent teacher confernces, first parent/child fight, birthdays, the tooth fairy, staying up late for Santa, we've gone through all the normal stuff parents/kids/tweens/teens go through. Would hubby and I trade this for anything? No. Does the fact that my children are of hispanic/african descent and hubby and I are white? No. Does it bother them? No. Because we are family, thats why. I have enjoyed every minute of it, and will forever enjoy it.
May God Bless all of you, I wish there were more of you.........you are so right kids are just looking for a forever family and lots of love. embrace.gif
RW, God bless you and your husband. What you have done for these children is amazing. embrace.gif beer11.gif
I may get slammed for this but that silly cow in Wittier is a poster child for forced sterilization and the clinic that implanted her should be shut down.
She is going to be pursue a career as a "television childcare expert". And TV climbs to a new low.
Quote from: FreecellFanny on February 02, 2009, 01:16:12 PM
RW, God bless you and your husband. What you have done for these children is amazing. embrace.gif beer11.gif
I may get slammed for this but that silly cow in Wittier is a poster child for forced sterilization and the clinic that implanted her should be shut down.
I don't slam. Now on the other hand slapping is my cup of tea. slap1.gif slap1.gif slap1.gif
Quote from: disneyland lady on February 02, 2009, 01:59:55 PM
She is going to be pursue a career as a "television childcare expert". And TV climbs to a new low.
It will be as bad a Brittney Spears writing a book on childcare
Quote from: roadwarrior on February 02, 2009, 02:18:26 PM
It will be as bad a Brittney Spears writing a book on childcare
Didn't Britney's mom write one on " the personal story of raising high-profile children"?
No they canceled her parenting book, and instead she wrote on life in the tabloid world camera.gif
Quote from: Homer on February 02, 2009, 02:05:13 PM
I don't slam. Now on the other hand slapping is my cup of tea. slap1.gif slap1.gif slap1.gif
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Quote from: FreecellFanny on February 02, 2009, 05:23:00 PM
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Caught this tidbit inside an article of how the mom is getting deluged with offers from media (not pampers or huggies): <i> According to her spokesman, Mike Furtney, the "very bright, very engaging" Suleman has a degree in psychology and hopes to continue work toward a master's degree. </i>
Hmmmm......14 children? When does she think she will have time to continue her college education? It it also sad that she wasn't ordered to see a psychologist who had a master's degree.
I wish I could let this go but it just keeps my anger issues rising. Seems since 1999 she has been living on Cali Disability Benefits and interestingly she started her expensive IVF treatments starting at that same time. I know what a normal gestation and care of a baby does to an avg woman's back so what does several sets of multiples do? I hope they get around to investigating her for disability fraud as she has also been going to school since 1999 on the taxpayers dime and can't wait to get to the end of her degree so that she can <b>start</b> her goals.
She proudly said that she spent 45 mins each day with each child and my math is saying that with 14 it does not leave much time for that career. But I do want someone to do a study of this woman so that we can see what ALL of her children are like when they hit adolescence cuz I deal with one daily and he was raised with plenty of attention from loving parent and grandparent.
Should we call her "Octo-Mom"?
Will she be in Spiderman 4?
Are her children considered Squids?
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Quote from: Homer on February 06, 2009, 01:42:27 PM
Should we call her "Octo-Mom"?
Will she be in Spiderman 4?
Are her children considered Squids?
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It would appear that others aren't letting this rest either. I think the whole thing stinks.
Octuplet Birth Doctor Under Investigation
LOS ANGELES – The spotlight on the mother of octuplets is turning to the fertility doctor who helped her give birth not once but 14 times by implanting Nadya Suleman with fertilized embryos.
The Medical Board of California investigating the doctor — whom it did not name — to see if there was a "violation of the standard of care," board spokeswoman Candis Cohen said Friday.
She did not elaborate.
Suleman, 33, of Whittier, already had six children when she gave birth Jan. 26 to octuplets. The births to an unemployed, divorced single mother prompted angry questions about how she plans to provide for her children.
But the backlash seems to have extended as well to Suleman's doctor.
In a portion of an NBC interview, broadcast Friday, Suleman said she had six embryos implanted for each of her in vitro pregnancies, using the same s.perm donor and fertility specialist.
In the case of the octuplets, the procedure resulted in six boys and two girls, including two sets of twins.
"The revelation about one center treating her makes the treatment even harder to understand," said Arthur Caplan, bioethics chairman at the University of Pennsylvania. "They went ahead when she had six kids, knowing that she was a single mom ... and put embryos into her anyway."
In the United States, there is no law dictating the number of embryos that can be placed in a mother's womb. Multiple embroys can be implanted to improve the odds that one will take.
However, there are national guidelines which put the norm at two to three embryos for a woman of Suleman's age, in order to lessen the health risks to the mother and the chances of multiple births.
When asked why so many embryos were implanted, Suleman told NBC: "Those are my children, and that's what was available and I used them. So, I took a risk. It's a gamble. It always is."
She said her life's goal was to be a mother and she had struggled for seven years before finally giving birth to her first child in 2001.
"All I wanted was children. I wanted to be a mom. That's all I ever wanted in my life," Suleman said in the portion of the interview that aired Friday. "I love my children."
According to state documents, Suleman told a doctor she had three miscarriages. Another doctor disputed that number, saying she had two ectopic pregnancies, a dangerous condition in which a fertilized egg implants somewhere other than in the uterus.
Quote from: FreecellFanny on February 07, 2009, 06:28:22 AM
In the United States, there is no law dictating the number of embryos that can be placed in a mother's womb. Multiple embroys can be implanted to improve the odds that one will take.
Whoever wrote this article should have used the spellchecker before publishing the article, but then again they were to busy stirring up more drama and probably forgot to take care of their own business. We live in the land of the free...or do we?
Quote from: Tara on February 07, 2009, 08:59:12 AM
Whoever wrote this article should have used the spellchecker before publishing the article, but then again they were to busy stirring up more drama and probably forgot to take care of their own business. We live in the land of the free...or do we?
Only if you are the CEO of a large bank.
Did anyone catch Dr. Phil last night? The brood mare's 'representative' was on discussing the case.
It would appear that the 'Octomom' is already collecting disability cheques for 3 of her 6 children and will likely be able to get more for some/most of the new babies because they are at high risk for things like cerebral palsy and other afflictions.
So, in spite of her denials to the contrary she IS INDEED collecting assistance courtesy of you and me, the taxpayers.
This chick also bears a striking resemblance to Angelina "Puffy Lips" Jolie and in spite of the fact that Dr. Phil showed before and after pics she swears that she's never had plastic surgery. Yeah, right.
Besides the obvious, one thing that bothers me about this whole thing is that she managed to collect disability for herself (from the mental home fracas injuries) while she had money socked away to pay for IVF treatments. She says she worked like a dog and saved money so she could have kids and pay about $10,000 for each treatment.
Did the disability agency not do their duediligence and check her finances prior to handing over a cheque? Apparently not.
The more I hear about this case the angrier I get. swear2.gif
Quote from: FreecellFanny on February 12, 2009, 02:37:23 AM
This chick also bears a striking resemblance to Angelina "Puffy Lips" Jolie and in spite of the fact that Dr. Phil showed before and after pics she swears that she's never had plastic surgery. Yeah, right.
This just shows how much more beautiful you are after one, then after having 14. And she isn't finished - her nails were perfectly unnatural. Anyone having 6 kids would not have those nails if she actually was raising them. Bet her poor mother does not have the time or money for getting the nails done. I am glad for the backlash on this. Our state is holding our refund checks - our <b>own</b> money but she is getting $600 x3 plus $500 in food stamps but she is "not on welfare". Perhaps they should also look into the education she is getting off school loans to see if they can define 'welfare'. Sadly she is now in a hotel that is probably paid for with state funds.
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This is a relative new producure. Gave hope and children to many women that otherwise would not have had children. Perhaps it is time for the medical community to setup guide lines for these clinics. We are the land of the free but your free part ends when it comes at the taxpayers expense.
i saw on cnn this morning where she has set up a websites,and people can send her donations,also will accept credit cards..
Quotei saw on cnn this morning where she has set up a websites,and people can send her donations,also will accept credit cards..
So then all I got to do is have 14 kids and I can get donations too I will even take paypal camera.gif
Maybe I should try the website idea to support my harley habit
Quote from: Mistyeyed on February 12, 2009, 07:01:32 AM
i saw on cnn this morning where she has set up a websites,and people can send her donations,also will accept credit cards..
She can kiss my arse.
While I hate the thought of turning my back on these innocent children, if people send money and she continues to collect assistance it will only give others licence to take advantage.
Someone told me today that what this woman does with her body is not my business. However, when she is living courtesy of my tax dollars it becomes my business.
Quote from: FreecellFanny on February 12, 2009, 01:54:37 PM
She can kiss my arse.
While I hate the thought of turning my back on these innocent children, if people send money and she continues to collect assistance it will only give others licence to take advantage.
Someone told me today that what this woman does with her body is not my business. However, when she is living courtesy of my tax dollars it becomes my business.
Amen to that Fanny embrace.gif
Double Amen.
I have been reading up on her and her story and it disgraces me. (My opinion) She has gone off the deep end and I feel sorry for all of her children.
http://www.tmz.com/2009/02/13/octuplet-mom-odyssey-interrupted/ (http://www.tmz.com/2009/02/13/octuplet-mom-odyssey-interrupted/)
Quote from: Homer on February 13, 2009, 12:08:19 PM
http://www.tmz.com/2009/02/13/octuplet-mom-odyssey-interrupted/ (http://www.tmz.com/2009/02/13/octuplet-mom-odyssey-interrupted/)
They booted MY car. I am sure that my taxes helped pay for it so I protest this.
OctoMom Gets Nailed
Posted Feb 13th 2009 5:03PM by TMZ Staff
With her 14 progeny nowhere in sight, octuplet mother of the year Nadya Suleman took time out of her busy press schedule to get a federally subsidized manicure in Norwalk, Calif. on Friday.
She was also seen pricing wii's and video games/controlers. And she is surprised by the backlash?
Like a lot of you people here i am also following that woman's story...14 babies....when it was first announced i think it was an interview with her mother that said all the children had the same father...but in the same interview she also said that 3 of the 6 children at home were special needs....i cannot for the life of me understand why she would use sperm that already gave her 3 out of 6 special needs children...then i saw interview that said she was spending 45 mins with each baby in the hospital...well my math says that that is 6 hours...if she feeds a baby and its gonna take her 6 hours to get back to that baby it will be a long time between feedings....i think she needs her head checked because there is not much of her brain working...some women that have so much to offer a child and can't get one...this is sad...i feel so sorry for the babies...i hope they closed down her baby factory when they had her tummy open.....it just makes me so mad
I wonder how many people here have ever received any federal assistance. giggle2.gif
Quote from: Tara on February 14, 2009, 07:47:59 AM
I wonder how many people here have ever received any federal assistance. giggle2.gif
I got food stamps when Warner Music went on strike years ago and was shocked to learn that I could buy lobster if I wanted but couldn't buy cleaning supplies or toilet paper. I hope they have changed that now.
Quote from: disneyland lady on February 14, 2009, 08:07:31 AM
I got food stamps when Warner Music went on strike years ago and was shocked to learn that I could buy lobster if I wanted but couldn't buy cleaning supplies or toilet paper. I hope they have changed that now.
They haven't changed it at all.
I used to work at a local market and I used to check out one couple on a regular basis and they bought things like lobster, steak, and other expensive meats.
Used to piss me off to no end.
It's pretty clear the girls a nutcase.
I have no problem with someone getting assistance when it is needed. I do have a problem with someone getting assistance with 6 children and no job and having 8 more children. That is just wrong. The children that have disabilities will recieve checks for the rest of their life. Bottom line from my point of view this woman should never have been allowed to have this done.
OctoMom's Million Dollar Crib!?
Posted Feb 19th 2009 3:20PM by TMZ Staff
UPDATE: 4:54 ET PM. We just called back our contact at Century 21, the agency that has listed the house. They claim Nadya is indeed an interested buyer. But here's the rub. We're told a big TV show has the house for the day and is there doing a sit-down interview with Nadya....
UNBELIEVABLE!!! We've confirmed OctoMom Nadya Suleman is looking to buy a home listed for $1.24 MILLION!
Octo is there right now ... the house is in Whittier, California. It has 4 bedrooms, 2 1/2 bathrooms and a pool with no safety gates. Perfect for 14 kids.
A real estate source tells TMZ the owner canceled showings today specifically because Octo wanted to see it. She needs it because the house she's living in now may be on its way to the auction block -- as in foreclosure.
How is she getting the money? Put it this way -- this chick works the media better than Obama.
CHICAGO — The father of the California woman who recently gave birth to octuplets told Oprah Winfrey that he hopes people don't punish his grandchildren for his daughter's irresponsible behavior.
Ed Doud said in an interview taped Thursday for "The Oprah Winfrey Show" that the actions of his daughter, Nadya Suleman, and her doctor were "absolutely irresponsible." But he also issued a plea for the public's help, according to excerpts of the interview released by Harpo Productions Inc.
"You know what? She needs help. I say to everybody now — people — we do need help," Doud said. "Do not punish my daughter for what she had done and do not punish the babies, because they were given by God."
A California-based nonprofit called Angels in Waiting has offered Suleman round-the-clock care and a place to stay with her 14 children. It would cost about $135,000 a month to provide the 12 caretakers necessary for the children, money that would have to come from public donations, founder Linda West Conforti said in Los Angeles.
The organization has the trained nursing personnel and experience in caring for very sick children, she said. The group, however, could only provide care for a limited time without the donations, she said.
Property records show Suleman's mother, Angela, owns the home and is $23,225 behind in her mortgage payments. The house could be sold at auction beginning May 5.
In response to a question about whether he thinks his daughter is mentally stable, Doud said, "Now I'm no psychiatrist, but I question her mental situation."
Doud said he hopes Suleman will finish her education and start working so she can help support the family.
The show is scheduled to air Tuesday
Quote from: IndianLover on February 20, 2009, 05:58:31 AM
Doud said he hopes Suleman will finish her education and start working so she can help support the family.
This woman is a perennial student and she herself, says she has a "few more years" to go. I think her education is over - she is loving the publicity. She should use this as a way to find a job cuz no one is going to donate very long cuz the truth is, she CAN get pregnant the natural way and add to her family as soon as the paparazzi leave.
I completely understand public assistance for the people who truly need it. I was a single parent and full time student. I accepted WIC for a short time to help with the cost of formula. But I only had ONE child and I needed help. In my situation I would have never went and had any more kids. If you can't afford the ones that you already have close your legs or in her case don't go and get fertility treatments. She is a media ho!!! She pretty much expects the nice peeps in Cali, through their taxes, to help support her family. I truly believe that those children should be taken away from her because of her irresponsibility bring them into this world when she already had 6 other children and can't afford them! The state and taxes are going to raise her children. I like how she say she wants to finish her education and start working. Well, where are the children going to be when she is working. I have a hard enough time trying to pay for daycare for one much less 14. Just my opinion.
Quote from: babycheater on February 20, 2009, 06:59:52 AM
I completely understand public assistance for the people who truly need it. I was a single parent and full time student. I accepted WIC for a short time to help with the cost of formula. But I only had ONE child and I needed help. In my situation I would have never went and had any more kids. If you can't afford the ones that you already have close your legs or in her case don't go and get fertility treatments. She is a media ho!!! She pretty much expects the nice peeps in Cali, through their taxes, to help support her family. I truly believe that those children should be taken away from her because of her irresponsibility bring them into this world when she already had 6 other children and can't afford them! The state and taxes are going to raise her children. I like how she say she wants to finish her education and start working. Well, where are the children going to be when she is working. I have a hard enough time trying to pay for daycare for one much less 14. Just my opinion.
I totally agree with you... yes 20 years ago I did get help with my son from WIC also, I was young at 19, my family had helped me also. I left the abusive father and at all times I worked even though I got help. I also finished college. I now have to more boys their ages are 6 and 2 but look at the years that passed my husband and I made the choice to wait to have children to make sure we could financially do it ourselves. Yes times are tight I stay home with youngest that will also start school fairly soon, then I will go back to work woo hoo, lol. But morally I know we are ok with ourselves, but I DO NOT see how she can think what she is doing is ok I really don't.
I believe people that get assistance who truly need it are fine but come on 14 kids, I do not believe in abortion as you can tell. (Everyone has their own opinion on that topic and that is fine) But she had medical procedures done to have all those kids she can not afford, what is she teaching them? Not good values!!!
Her father has no right to ask for anyones assistance for his daughter she made the choices to have them all, my question is who footed the medical bills? Medicaid? If so that is whacked!!!
I shall stop now because everyone has their own opinion but this matter upsets me royally lol and I could go on all day. To bad I didn't get 50 posts for this one post. lol
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Well that would be great for her I guess. But I heard/read somewhere this baby making machine hasn't had sex for seven years. hysterical.gif
Frankly I am sick of her and her whole family. It is all about the money. Her mother was paid $40,000 for the one interview alone. I feel so sorry for her little babies.
She is on Dr Phil today. I saw her father on Oprah yesterday and I have to say that I really felt for this man. He is divorced from the grandmother but he appears to really have tried to stop Octomom before it got this far.
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Quote from: arniebear on February 25, 2009, 01:33:43 PM
If she is gonna take that giggle2.gif movie offer, she better take some of the money and invest in plastic surgery.........I am sure she has some real nasty looking stretch marks no-no.gif
Now <b>that</b> would be obscenity!
I missed the Dr. phil show. I would like to hear more of what she has to say for herself.
She already made a film. She's been effin' the CA taxpayers for years. rolleyes.gif
Looks like she may have judged how people would respond
Dr. Phil: Hospital may not send octuplets home
updated 11:29 a.m. ET, Wed., Feb. 25, 2009
LOS ANGELES - Nadya Suleman apparently has bigger worries than taking care of her 14 children. Talk show host Dr. Phil McGraw says she may have to prove she can handle the load, or else have hospital officials withhold her newborn octuplets.
McGraw said the 33-year-old unemployed mother called him Tuesday, distraught that Kaiser Permanente officials told her they were concerned about the babies living at her home in suburban Los Angeles.
"What she is telling me is that unless and until she has a better living arrangement, that they are not likely to release the children to her," McGraw told the Los Angeles Times.
Suleman gave birth to the octuplets Jan. 26 in Kaiser's hospital in nearby Bellflower. She has six other children, lives in her mother's three-bedroom home in Whittier and relies on food stamps and disability income to provide for them. The home is under threat of foreclosure and could be sold at auction beginning May 5 because Suleman's mother is $23,225 behind in her mortgage payments, property records show.
Kaiser officials declined to comment on Suleman's case.
"Any conversations that the mother may or may not have had on this topic are private and we could not discuss them," said Kaiser spokesman Jim Anderson.
Social workers evaluate parents of very premature babies to determine what services the children and family may be entitled to, said Vicky Bermudez, a neonatal intensive care unit nurse at the Kaiser hospital in Roseville.
The octuplets were born nine weeks premature.
"If they feel there's a risk to a baby, they contact Child Protective Services and Child Protective Services would make a determination as to whether or not there's a reason for concern," Bermudez said.
A call to the Los Angeles County Department of Children and Family Services was not returned Tuesday night.
Suleman has not responded to repeated interview requests from The Associated Press. Her phone has been disconnected and she no longer has a publicist.
If you missed Dr. Phil today, the interview continues tomorrow.
I hope tomorrow Dr. Phil will explain how that woman still has the 6 older kids after they kept showing a pic of her with all six and two of them were standing on the arms of the couch. At least today he asked her about what she was thinking during all those months of bed rest. She had vague psycho-babble answers that she learned from her years in college psyche classes.
I caught the show today. She is a tad delusional, I think. I hope that California does not release those infants to her any time soon. The poor taxpayers of California (and the nation via Medi-Cal and Medcaid) will be paying for her irresponsibility for decades.
Denny's is offering a new breakfast meal called the Suleman:
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You get eight eggs, no sausage, and all the guys next to you has to pay the bill.
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Denny's is offering a new breakfast meal called the Suleman:
(https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/disdannie/pogocheats/eggs.jpg)
You get eight eggs, no sausage, and all the guys next to you has to pay the bill.
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Quote from: disneyland lady on March 01, 2009, 07:32:21 AM
Denny's is offering a new breakfast meal called the Suleman:
(https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/disdannie/pogocheats/eggs.jpg)
You get eight eggs, no sausage, and all the guys next to you has to pay the bill.
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Quote from: disneyland lady on March 01, 2009, 07:32:21 AM
Denny's is offering a new breakfast meal called the Suleman:
(https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/disdannie/pogocheats/eggs.jpg)
You get eight eggs, no sausage, and all the guys next to you has to pay the bill.
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Octu-Mom Cans Free Nurses
Posted 3 hours, 6 minutes ago in Gossip
(Newser) – Never a dull moment in the octu-house: Nadya Suleman fired four Angels in Waiting nurses helping with her octuplets after one filed a report with Child Protective Services, the Orange County Register reports. The nurse was concerned the house was overcrowded, says Suleman's lawyer. Two nannies are still helping, and nurses from the hospital have visited to give advice. Suleman will tell her side of the story on Dr Phil's show tomorrow.
"If you can imagine being monitored by somebody; every little mistake you make may get you reported to CPS," said the attorney. "I don't think it was a great fit from the get-go. There may have been great intentions. The bottom line is, it's not going to work and Nadya does have good alternatives. It really is going well, amazingly well, for the number of kids that are there."
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Quote from: arniebear on March 24, 2009, 08:17:30 AM
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Didn't you notice the new title in the TV Guide 'Dr Phil and Octomom Show'? And remind me, isn't it supposed to be every little mistake is reported to Child Protective Services?
Caught on the news this morning she loved all the free help she was getting so much she fired angels in waiting because they called CPS on her and they were "spying" on her family.
Quote from: roadwarrior on March 24, 2009, 09:05:31 AM
Caught on the news this morning she loved all the free help she was getting so much she fired angels in waiting because they called CPS on her and they were "spying" on her family.
Is that the story about her tossing out Gloria Allred?
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Yes, I am sure Gloria Allrod can be a pain, but her organization is paying the bills........guess Octo gets more out Dr. Phil undecided.gif
Quote from: arniebear on March 24, 2009, 09:47:20 AM
Yes, I am sure Gloria Allrod can be a pain, but her organization is paying the bills........guess Octo gets more out Dr. Phil undecided.gif
Who is really paying her bills and will for as long as those kids live? The taxpayers of America, and I'm none too happy about it.
Fired nanny speaks out about 'Octomom;' says she was often unreachable or out shopping
by Vicki Hyman/The Star-Ledger
Thursday March 26, 2009, 10:26 AM
Evidence that Nadya "Octomom" Suleman is a publicity-hungry madwoman -- wait, the jury is still out? -- piled up on Wednesday, when one of her fired former nurses told Dr. Phil that Suleman hired at least one new nurse who might have had tuberculosis, People reports. She also says that Suleman was hands-off with the babies, often unreachable or out shopping, and that she only fed the babies while cameras were rolling.
"That's the only time that woman ever volunteered to feed a child," says Linda West-Conforti of the free nanny service Angels in Waiting. "And I tell you what happened: During one episode she was done feeding ... she picked up the child [and] gave it to me on my chest. She didn't burp it; she didn't change the diaper; [she] walked out of that room and [didn't see] her for another 12 hours."
Suleman had called in to Dr. Phil earlier in this show that the nannies from Angels in Waiting were "spies," who gave out "incessant negative energy."
Meanwhile, TMZ.com documented Suleman's latest shopping spree -- she spent $1,500 at Bebe Sport on items including a tank tops, crystal heart sweatshirts in two colors, a woven cargo dress, and a tight metallic cami, which should go great with spit-up.
QuoteSuleman had called in to Dr. Phil earlier in this show that the nannies from Angels in Waiting were "spies," who gave out "incessant negative energy."
Meanwhile, TMZ.com documented Suleman's latest shopping spree -- she spent $1,500 at Bebe Sport on items including a tank tops, crystal heart sweatshirts in two colors, a woven cargo dress, and a tight metallic cami, which should go great with spit-up.
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Most popular 2009 Halloween Costume:
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Quote from: Squid on March 26, 2009, 04:01:13 PM
Most popular 2009 Halloween Costume:
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But at least a "friend" donated a jacuzzi and I figure she can bathe all of the octuplets in one dunk. It angers me so much and I am glad that I had already helped my 2 kids thru college cuz I am going to need to help those 14 also.
She's now trying to copyright (or whatever the process may be) the name, "Octomom". Yeah, she never wanted to financially gain from this whole thing, right?
Now Casting -- OctoMom: The Musical!
Posted Apr 25th 2009 1:50AM by TMZ Staff
Do you bear a striking resemblance to a certain mother of 14? Do you have an extensive background in musical theater and improv? Have you given up on any hopes of an actual career? Then maybe you could star in a new OctoMom musical!
Described as "a fast-paced triptych musical parody" the OctoMusical is looking for someone who is "funny" and "whimsical" and can "command authority." Ability to contain eight fetuses within your womb at once is not required.
The musical is set to open at a small theater in Los Angeles called Bang sometime in June.
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Rumor has it that she is looking for a puppy for her brood. I imagine she will expect us to pay for this too. To me this says that she is not finished having babies. I am hoping that any shelter would refuse her one because a puppy actually needs attention.
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puppy?! she has enough mouths to feed, but oops i forgot she's on public assistance. turkey4.gif
Quote from: cranky on April 26, 2009, 04:12:47 PM
puppy?! she has enough mouths to feed, but oops i forgot she's on public assistance. turkey4.gif
I looked on the internet and was wrong. She wants a puppy or a piglet. She says it would, of course, stay outside.