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Title: Suggestions
Post by: Homer on February 06, 2004, 08:30:49 PM
This thread is for members to make suggestions to the mods/admins. Tell us what you would want to see to make the site more interesting for you. Don't forget the guys are working on building a new website. Maybe one of your suggestions can be utilized in some way on the new site or this one.
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: Homer on February 06, 2004, 08:34:33 PM
Quote from: kotraquin on February 06, 2004, 07:40:16 PM
what about a red background for Feb 14th (Valentine's Day) and maybe a heart smiley just for that day only

Here's a suggestion from Kotraquin. Sorry didn't know how to move his post into this one.
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: admin on February 07, 2004, 06:21:03 AM
Yes, we always love to hear what you guys want so we can make pogocheats.net even better. :D

Any suggestions for the site that we are currently working on would be appreciated. There is no sure release date for the site, but -hopefully- it will be done before the end of the month, but I'm not making any promices. And don't worry, we are not getting rid of the forum.

What would you like to see on it? How do you think it should look? What would make you want to visit it? Answering questions like that would be very helpful to us when designing it.

Thanks.  :)
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: kotraquin on February 07, 2004, 07:35:30 AM
maybe split the tech help into 2 sections one for P programs
and one for Computer.
Change the Board "General Disscusion" name to P's Disscusion (non tech). Change First page to the PogoCheats.net  logo with a short Faqs.  add a spell checker ,
Eye wood like two see that lol :D
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: Homer on February 07, 2004, 10:53:23 AM
How about an auto refresh for the message board? I have to click the refresh button to see if there are new posts. I know I'm lazy. LOL ;)
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: Homer on February 07, 2004, 11:21:57 AM
How about being able to set your own font/color as a default.
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: admin on February 07, 2004, 01:50:28 PM
Quote from: kotraquin on February 07, 2004, 07:35:30 AM
maybe split the tech help into 2 sections one for P programs
and one for Computer.
Change the Board "General Disscusion" name to P's Disscusion (non tech). Change First page to the PogoCheats.net  logo with a short Faqs.  add a spell checker ,
Eye wood like two see that lol :D

It might be a good idea to reorganize the boards. Maybe nothing too major, but I was thinking of adding a "Contest" board or something like that so you can talk about the montly contest.

A spell checker will be in the next version of yaBB SE, which will be out soon.  :)


What do you mean by "Change First page to the PogoCheats.net  logo with a short Faqs. "?
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: kotraquin on February 07, 2004, 04:16:41 PM
QuoteWhat do you mean by "Change First page to the PogoCheats.net  logo with a short Faqs. "?

kinda like a "Welcome to PogoCheats.net"  maybe Faq's was wrong I meant  short TOS (terms of service)
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: admin on February 07, 2004, 04:28:36 PM
Quote from: John on February 07, 2004, 10:53:23 AM
How about an auto refresh for the message board? I have to click the refresh button to see if there are new posts. I know I'm lazy. LOL ;)

So maybe on the board index (not every page; you wouldn't want it refreshing when you are posting or reading a topic) have and auto-refresh timer? That could work well. (Assuming I can figure out how ;) ) How long would it be-- 30, 45 seconds?
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: admin on February 07, 2004, 04:39:03 PM
Quote from: kotraquin on February 07, 2004, 04:16:41 PM
QuoteWhat do you mean by "Change First page to the PogoCheats.net  logo with a short Faqs. "?

kinda like a "Welcome to PogoCheats.net"  maybe Faq's was wrong I meant  short TOS (terms of service)

So for the site? I'm not sure if I want to scare users away with that huge thing.  :P Or do you mean just have a link to it? I agree that there should be a link to the TOS, and we will be putting one on the site.
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: Homer on February 07, 2004, 05:09:23 PM
Quote from: Pcheats on February 07, 2004, 04:28:36 PM
Quote from: John on February 07, 2004, 10:53:23 AM
How about an auto refresh for the message board? I have to click the refresh button to see if there are new posts. I know I'm lazy. LOL ;)

So maybe on the board index (not every page; you wouldn't want it refreshing when you are posting or reading a topic) have and auto-refresh timer? That could work well. (Assuming I can figure out how ;) ) How long would it be-- 30, 45 seconds?

No doesn't have to be that quick. How about every minute or two. Yes, I mean the board index. The little blue light lets me know when there are new posts. For an example go to http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/scoreboard you will see in the middle column that you can have the page refresh anywhere from 30-90 seconds or not at all.
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: kotraquin on February 07, 2004, 05:13:21 PM
scaring people would be bad. alot of people are used to routine. I mean so many netizens use the same user name and password for everything  :-\
ok enough of my rant
any how if you look at other message boards and forums you'll notice the good/bad stuff right away...your users should be able to be able to navigate easy but I'm sure you knew that. One item that kinda distract me is all the options just to post one message.
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: Homer on February 07, 2004, 05:53:22 PM
Quote from: John on February 07, 2004, 05:09:23 PM
Quote from: Pcheats on February 07, 2004, 04:28:36 PM
Quote from: John on February 07, 2004, 10:53:23 AM
How about an auto refresh for the message board? I have to click the refresh button to see if there are new posts. I know I'm lazy. LOL ;)

So maybe on the board index (not every page; you wouldn't want it refreshing when you are posting or reading a topic) have and auto-refresh timer? That could work well. (Assuming I can figure out how ;) ) How long would it be-- 30, 45 seconds?

No doesn't have to be that quick. How about every minute or two. Yes, I mean the board index. The little blue light lets me know when there are new posts. For an example go to http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/scoreboard you will see in the middle column that you can have the page refresh anywhere from 30-90 seconds or not at all.

See if this works:

Auto-refreshing...  
Automatic Refreshing is supported by many newer versions of Netscape Navigator and Microsoft Internet Explorer. This also uses a modified form of the <META> tag. Auto refreshing means that once one page loads, you can set a certain number of seconds and then the browser will load another page automatically. The basic structure is as follows:

<meta http-equiv=REFRESH CONTENT="90_seconds; url=http://www.pogocheats.net/pagetosendto.html">

The URL is the page you want it to refresh to, CONTENT is the number of seconds you want it to wait before refreshing, and http-equiv=REFRESH just tells it that this is the refresh meta tag. For example, if you wanted the page to refresh to pogocheats.net after 5 seconds it would be as follows:

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: admin on February 07, 2004, 06:04:32 PM
Yea, thats no problem. I've just got to figure out what file to add it to so it will just be to the board index. :)
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: admin on February 07, 2004, 06:15:52 PM
Quotewhat about a red background for Feb 14th (Valentine's Day) and maybe a heart smiley just for that day only

I'll see what we can do. Something special might be nice.
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: Homer on February 07, 2004, 06:21:31 PM
Quote from: Pcheats on February 07, 2004, 06:04:32 PM
Yea, thats no problem. I've just got to figure out what file to add it to so it will just be to the board index. :)

Maybe fatkid knows. He seems to be more computer literate than me. :)
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: kotraquin on February 07, 2004, 06:48:32 PM
Quote from: Pcheats on February 07, 2004, 06:15:52 PM
Quotewhat about a red background for Feb 14th (Valentine's Day) and maybe a heart smiley just for that day only

I'll see what we can do. Something special might be nice.

yeah!!! I love you too!
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: fatkid on February 08, 2004, 02:21:40 AM
Well if you are dealing with the meta tags, those involve the html directly, doesn't it?  And so that's where I see the problem with the PHP...  Correct me if I am wrong Pcheats, but there aren't individual html pages for each of the threads, but instead it is just PHP files that sort the submitted posts and threads... So wouldn't that make it so that anything that falls under the www.pogocheats.net/index (if the meta tag was set to auto-refresh) would auto-refresh?  (Because there is only 1 real html page and the rest are PHP sorted forms; so everything falls under the meta tag to refresh from the 1 html page)

I wonder though if you could some how include an "update" button in java script that tells you when the board has had a new addition (turns green whenever a new post goes up or whatever)... Instead of having each and every page refresh and a set interval...  Food for thought... (I'll be checking some stuff out on this around the web and see if I can find anything that is easliy enough implemented)
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: admin on February 08, 2004, 04:54:04 AM
Quote from: fatkid on February 08, 2004, 02:21:40 AM
Well if you are dealing with the meta tags, those involve the html directly, doesn't it?  And so that's where I see the problem with the PHP...  Correct me if I am wrong Pcheats, but there aren't individual html pages for each of the threads, but instead it is just PHP files that sort the submitted posts and threads... So wouldn't that make it so that anything that falls under the www.pogocheats.net/index (if the meta tag was set to auto-refresh) would auto-refresh?  (Because there is only 1 real html page and the rest are PHP sorted forms; so everything falls under the meta tag to refresh from the 1 html page)

Yes, but on different pages it still calls up different files. There is a BoardIndex.php, which I assume would be for the board index, and anything changed there would only effect the board index. So, if I added the auto-refresh thing there, it would only be on the board index. I could just put the html outside of the <?php ?> and it would be all good, right?

QuoteI wonder though if you could some how include an "update" button in java script that tells you when the board has had a new addition (turns green whenever a new post goes up or whatever)... Instead of having each and every page refresh and a set interval...  Food for thought... (I'll be checking some stuff out on this around the web and see if I can find anything that is easliy enough implemented)

That sounds very cool, but far beyond my abilities. :)  If you find anything on it, let me know.
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: kotraquin on February 08, 2004, 07:31:56 AM
with so much info on how to do webpages.
from simple HTML tags to CGI scripts. I'd google and search on how to properly do refresh. maybe you can read the source codes on sites you know  that uses auto refresh
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: fatkid on February 08, 2004, 03:10:09 PM
I've been searching on the best for auto-refresh, and John seems to be correct in finding that the meta tag way is the best to have a page refresh itself...

PHP code seems a bit more complicated and more trouble than just adding the meta tag refresh code... Though... Here's the predicament I come to... In your .html file for www.pogocheats.net is where the refresh meta tag would be included, (i'm assuming)... From there you don't ever go to any other .html files... The rest of the pages (for the most part) are all from .php files...  Now HTML supports the meta tags... But can you include the meta tags inside each individual .php file?  Because I've only known meta tags to be included with HTML...


The meta tag refresh breakdown...
http://www.phpfreaks.com/quickcode/Redirecting_the_Web_Browser_With_Meta_Refresh/13.php (http://www.phpfreaks.com/quickcode/Redirecting_the_Web_Browser_With_Meta_Refresh/13.php)


This link here is an experimental method for PHP right now... It seems to be for refreshing the window... But as its experimental it isn't documented worth beans...  :-\

http://www.phpfreaks.com/phpmanual/page/function.ncurses-wrefresh.html (http://www.phpfreaks.com/phpmanual/page/function.ncurses-wrefresh.html)
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: admin on February 08, 2004, 03:28:05 PM
This might not be the best way to do it, but it could work, just by adding it to template.php:

$url =sprintf($HTTP_HOST);
if $url == "http://www.pogocheats.net/"
echo ("<META HTTP-EQUIV='refresh' CONTENT='90;http://www.pogocheats.net/'>");
else echo ('');


So if the page is on the index, do the auto-refresh code. This could be the easiest way to do it. The html there will work fine right? No need to use an experminetal php function when html will do the job.
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: kotraquin on February 08, 2004, 06:00:10 PM
Quote from: Pcheats on February 08, 2004, 03:28:05 PM
This might not be the best way to do it, but it could work, just by adding it to template.php:

$url =sprintf($HTTP_HOST);
if $url == "http://www.pogocheats.net/"
echo ("<META HTTP-EQUIV='refresh' CONTENT='90;http://www.pogocheats.net/'>");
else echo ('');

So if the page is on the index, do the auto-refresh code. This could be the easiest way to do it. The html there will work fine right? No need to use an experminetal php function when html will do the job.

maybe ya can do a test page with 3-4 fake boards that only you can access
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: fatkid on February 09, 2004, 12:28:38 AM
Quote from: Pcheats on February 08, 2004, 03:28:05 PM
$url =sprintf($HTTP_HOST);
if $url == "http://www.pogocheats.net/"
echo ("<META HTTP-EQUIV='refresh' CONTENT='90;http://www.pogocheats.net/'>");
else echo ('');

No I agree totally... No need for the not fully functioning PHP code... I think the method is getting renamed in the next PHP release any ways... But my one concern is, will that refresh every thing under the domain http://www.pogocheats.net/  ?  Or will it only do that SPECIFIC domain name?  Because that url is for the login page (if I remember correctly/ after login you go to the index.php file)  but if it does everything under the domain then won't it auto-refresh reply pages and such including all the boards?  And that would be no good...   That would only give me 90 seconds to post up replies... And sometimes I write HUGE replies..  ;)
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: admin on February 09, 2004, 03:57:56 AM
Don't worry, it would just be on the exact URL.

So actually, it should be:

if $url == "http://www.pogocheats.net/index.php" || $url == "http://pogocheats.net/index.php"
...

I'll do some testing later toady to be sure this works, and if all goes well it'll be implemented.  :)
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: fatkid on February 09, 2004, 07:25:57 AM
Well then there you go... Looks good from there, I was just not sure if it had to be index.php or what... I'm gonna talk to some guys that are in the web coding classes though and see if they know anything about the type of Javascript code I had mentioned earlier... Something like that would serve the same purpose, but be a little less obtrusive...  8)
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: admin on February 09, 2004, 03:59:30 PM
Just did a bit of testing, and everything is good.  :)

Look for it on the site later tonight.
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: Homer on February 09, 2004, 05:04:00 PM
Yeah! Cool! 8)
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: fatkid on February 10, 2004, 03:15:17 PM
Here's another suggestion... Don't know how much space you have on your server, but if we could upload our avatars onto the site instead of linking to them... My freakin' avatars never want to appear... They show up like 1 out of 20 times I log on..  :P ... Heck if you didn't have enough space to host the avatar I would send in a 120 gig drive just for that purpose...
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: admin on February 10, 2004, 03:19:57 PM
Hehe. :) This is another feature that will be in the next version of yabb SE. To learn more about it, go to www.simplemachines.org. (They are changing the name in the next version.)

The refresh script is giving me some problems, so it's not on the site yet. The code is there, but it's not doing anything... I'll work on it some more tonight and see if I can fix the problem.
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: fatkid on February 11, 2004, 08:04:19 PM
When is the next release of YaBB? I didn't seem to find it anywhere on simplemachines.org... That's the improvement on the board that I'm waiting for...
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: admin on February 12, 2004, 03:56:03 AM
They have been pretty tight-liped on giving away any release dates, but from what I've gathered, the release will be pretty soon. Exactly when, I don't know.
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: badcrazygirl on February 12, 2004, 03:57:30 AM
what is YaBB anyway? ???
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: admin on February 12, 2004, 03:59:21 AM
It's the forum software that we are using.

Quote
P Cheats Community | Powered by YaBB SE
© 2001-2004, YaBB SE Dev Team. All Rights Reserved.
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: badcrazygirl on February 12, 2004, 04:00:19 AM
oOo lol didnt notice b4 thanks
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: Homer on February 12, 2004, 04:58:14 AM
Quote from: badsexycrazygirl on February 12, 2004, 03:57:30 AM
what is YaBB anyway? ???

YaBB a Dabba Doo? LOL :P
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: badcrazygirl on February 12, 2004, 01:54:42 PM
lol you nutcase
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: fatkid on February 12, 2004, 03:18:29 PM
YaBB == Yet Another Bulletin Board...   ::)  You all are weird...
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: Homer on February 12, 2004, 03:19:08 PM
I guess SE means standard edition?
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: fatkid on February 12, 2004, 03:25:15 PM
Or second edition...

Like with Windows 98SE... It stands for second edition... YaBB could be Standard though...
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: Homer on February 12, 2004, 03:27:53 PM
Figured it was something like that. ;)
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: admin on February 12, 2004, 03:27:58 PM
Actually, it stands for Splinter Edition.  YaBB SE is quite different from yaBB. YaBB SE was based off YaBB, but the people currently working on YaBB SE are different than the YaBB developers.

At least that's my understanding of it. It is a little confusing with the very similar names.
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: fatkid on February 12, 2004, 03:30:42 PM
Well there we have it... Question solved...  :)
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: JeffCoKid on February 14, 2004, 10:28:07 PM
How about implimenting the calendar... ?! Or has that been tried before?
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: admin on February 17, 2004, 12:25:09 PM
Just an update on the site-- We are currently confirming with someone who will custom-design the site for us. If you have any more suggesions on it, please make them really quick (like TODAY!), because now will be much better than later.

It won't be long now... probably less than a week.  :)
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: JeffCoKid on February 17, 2004, 12:56:10 PM
What's gonna happen? I am looking forward to everything coming up and stuff... but I am sure you have discussed the color scheme and stuff... any details as of yet?


I honestly do not know what to request.
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: admin on February 17, 2004, 01:01:00 PM
The color scheme is a three-tone blue, like the one on the fourm. It is a relitively simple layout. I'm not going to give away too much though because that would ruin the suprise.  ;)
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: Homer on February 17, 2004, 01:05:59 PM
Do you think the auto refresh idea will be a problem on the new site?

Saves on my clicking finger. LOL :P
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: Element on February 17, 2004, 01:14:26 PM
Quote from: John on February 17, 2004, 01:05:59 PM
Do you think the auto refresh idea will be a problem on the new site?

ya i was wondering about that too ;D
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: badcrazygirl on February 17, 2004, 02:44:53 PM
How bout a bit more color in the background to make it cooler  ???
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: admin on February 17, 2004, 02:56:40 PM
Quote from: Notel on February 17, 2004, 01:14:26 PM
Quote from: John on February 17, 2004, 01:05:59 PM
Do you think the auto refresh idea will be a problem on the new site?

ya i was wondering about that too ;D

It would be very easy to impliment, but what would the point be? The forum will be seperate from the site, so you wouldn't see what new posts there are or anything. (But having the lastest posts on the homepage is an idea for the future.)


QuoteHow bout a bit more color in the background to make it cooler

Things like that are not finalised yet so I'm not exactly sure how the background will look, but we are going to a clean look, so don't expect it to be too exciting.
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: badcrazygirl on February 17, 2004, 02:58:10 PM
o i know its gonna take a while for you guys to get it done i was just suggesting
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: Homer on February 17, 2004, 03:01:38 PM
Quote from: Pcheats on February 17, 2004, 02:56:40 PM
Quote from: Notel on February 17, 2004, 01:14:26 PM
Quote from: John on February 17, 2004, 01:05:59 PM
Do you think the auto refresh idea will be a problem on the new site?

ya i was wondering about that too ;D

It would be very easy to impliment, but what would the point be? The forum will be seperate from the site, so you wouldn't see what new posts there are or anything. (But having the lastest posts on the homepage is an idea for the future.)


QuoteHow bout a bit more color in the background to make it cooler

Things like that are not finalised yet so I'm not exactly sure how the background will look, but we are going to a clean look, so don't expect it to be too exciting.

Ok gotcha.
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: badcrazygirl on February 17, 2004, 03:09:22 PM
cool cant wait to see it
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: kotraquin on February 17, 2004, 03:25:38 PM
you could set it up so last post in thread is first this way we wouldn't have to click on last page/scroll down or maybe have an option of having X post per page
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: admin on February 17, 2004, 03:30:28 PM
That is possible, but personally I find it quite confusing. If you click on the "new" button it takes you right to the newest unread post for you in that thread-- a very useful feature.   :)
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: admin on February 17, 2004, 03:39:47 PM
Remember that even if we don't necessarily go with your idea, we still really appreciate the input.

Keep it coming!  :)
Title: Re:Suggestions
Post by: Homer on February 17, 2004, 03:53:48 PM
If there was no new button I would suggest that also but the button serves the purpose. ;)