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Title: What's wrong with Pogo?!?!
Post by: GrumpyBear on April 11, 2005, 02:33:32 PM
I am normally not one to complain, much. I tell you latley the pogo players have been becoming more offensive by the day. Playing in a normal spades room today I had 2 major issues.
First off there was someone in the main chat talking about being in need of a "female friend". The words this person was using were completely unappropiate! I think he was spacing his words to get past the chat filter "L I K E T H I S" I reported him to pogo, and ignored him very quickly.
Later during the same session I wound up with a partner in a game that was more than nuts! He was going crazy because of some of the moves I was making. Now I admit, I am NO expert in spades, but my rating was much better than his was. Somehow this person got my email and has been harrassing me ever since! Again, I report to Pogo, and get a wonderful response that it is in their line of Que.  ::)
My children are just starting to get the hang of playing different games in pogo, and I really don't want them expossed to this type of stuff. Vulger chat, harrassment for moves someone doesn't like. I mean come on!!
**sigh**
I just really needed to vent here. This has really upset me.  :'(
Title: Re: What's wrong with Pogo?!?!
Post by: austin2um on April 11, 2005, 02:44:55 PM
grumpy if you dont mind me asking who was this person that was emailing you so i will tell wife to watch out for him and mute him before he starts
Title: Re: What's wrong with Pogo?!?!
Post by: sagenkenzismom on April 11, 2005, 02:59:51 PM
i think people like that should be banned, now we cant stop them from saying stuff hopefully if everyone reports pogo will do something about this. the whole thing with people complaing how you play that is one of my biggest pet peeves, for spades for example i have played on real life tourneys twice a week for 8 years or so, I'm the greatest but i know how to play and they want to complain how your playing, i don't think there is a right or wrong way on how to play everyone has there own strategy thats it, don't let it get you down. now as for your kids maybe you should get another account for them, i know you shouldn't have to but to protect them it might be best. :)
Title: Re: What's wrong with Pogo?!?!
Post by: GrumpyBear on April 11, 2005, 04:52:11 PM
Unfortunatly Austin, I forgot his screen name. The emails come from a johnxxxxx, but that was not his screen name on Pogo.
A very strange fellow, keeps emailing me calling me a fake and so on and so forth. Whats super funny about it all, is I was the one making all the bids, and carrying him, he couldn't even bid right. Bid 10, and didn't have a single ace or a 2?!?! But I am the fake one  ::)
As far as getting the kids their own seperate account, I might do that, but at the same time that does not do anything really to protect them. I don't know. I have been a relativly long player, and its only been recently that the Rif-Raf has been joining.
I really do hope that other people follow suit and report these people who make pogo a XXX site, and not a family site. I would understand such talk if I were in a room with unrated chat!!
It's just unacceptable!!
Title: Re: What's wrong with Pogo?!?!
Post by: Iceman007 on April 11, 2005, 04:56:35 PM
I've been on pogo little over 4 yrs now and I thought I've seen it all,but I haven't yet it seems.90% of the ppl are good.It's the other 10% you hafta look out for.Best thing for your kids wise get them seperate account with limits on what rooms they can get into by their age group.If I play a game and get beat who cares.It's just a game and I'm here just for fun.Which is way I look at it.Good Luck Grumpy
Title: Re: What's wrong with Pogo?!?!
Post by: GrumpyBear on April 11, 2005, 04:58:20 PM
Thanks for the advise and concern!
Title: Re: What's wrong with Pogo?!?!
Post by: sagenkenzismom on April 11, 2005, 05:40:04 PM
the only thing you still have to look out for is if you get them a separate account if people click the play now button it doesn't know there age group it puts them where ever and the youngest on then is 20's and yes I'm 20 something  but just not that dam stupid, so you always will have to monitor, but hopefully pogo fixes the problem. Grumpy are they emailing you through pogo or through your normal email?
Title: Re: What's wrong with Pogo?!?!
Post by: Olivia on April 11, 2005, 05:47:08 PM
well my question is what do u do about someone who is "stalikng" you
i would like to be able to have control over my "friends" account
i got this guy following me everwhere - giveing me his pass word
and asking me to do badges for him----------
i feel violated - and thee3r is nothing i can do but go play somehwere without chat
the worst is
was playing w/a friend
now he put her on "firends" list and is following her around - am telling u nothing worse than sitting at
your own computer AT home
and being frightened.............................................
Title: Re: What's wrong with Pogo?!?!
Post by: PrincessKate on April 11, 2005, 06:36:57 PM
Depending on the ages of your kids, the best bet is for the chat to be turned off.  They don't need chat to play the games. 

My personal favorite?

The parents that will tell a 30's uncensored room for us to watch our language because their kid will be playing while they check dinner, get laundry, etc.  We are in an uncensored room for a reason.  Those are the ones that need to take their kid to what I call an "Oprah" room if they are worried. 
Title: Re: What's wrong with Pogo?!?!
Post by: GrumpyBear on April 12, 2005, 12:41:20 PM
Quote from: sagenkenzismom on April 11, 2005, 05:40:04 PM
the only thing you still have to look out for is if you get them a separate account if people click the play now button it doesn't know there age group it puts them where ever and the youngest on then is 20's and yes I'm 20 something  but just not that dam stupid, so you always will have to monitor, but hopefully pogo fixes the problem. Grumpy are they emailing you through pogo or through your normal email?
Through my NORMAL EMAIL!!
Title: Re: What's wrong with Pogo?!?!
Post by: Snarechick on April 12, 2005, 02:28:38 PM
The easiest solution to issues with the chat section is to just turn it off as soon as you go in there.  Otherwise you are continuing to let it bother you by sitting there and reading it.

As for the e-mail situation- You should be able to block e-mails from an account and or report them as spam.  If it has become that big of an issue, you can contact your ISP and have them investigate the issue and have something more done about it.

I don't understand why individuals go nuts over their kids watching the chat.  As a parent, you should know that there are things said in EVERY game room that might not be appropriate for any given child.  Turn the chat off or supervise your child(ren) while they are playing.

We all know that there are some people floating around Pogo (and everywhere else for that matter) who have nothing better to do than get under people's skin just for the heck of it.  Step up and be the better person- ignore it.  It's nothing new, Pogo is aware of the concerns, you might as well take care of it yourself.
Title: Re: What's wrong with Pogo?!?!
Post by: GrumpyBear on April 12, 2005, 02:51:08 PM
Quote from: Snarechick on April 12, 2005, 02:28:38 PM
The easiest solution to issues with the chat section is to just turn it off as soon as you go in there.  Otherwise you are continuing to let it bother you by sitting there and reading it.

As for the e-mail situation- You should be able to block e-mails from an account and or report them as spam.  If it has become that big of an issue, you can contact your ISP and have them investigate the issue and have something more done about it.

I don't understand why individuals go nuts over their kids watching the chat.  As a parent, you should know that there are things said in EVERY game room that might not be appropriate for any given child.  Turn the chat off or supervise your child(ren) while they are playing.

We all know that there are some people floating around Pogo (and everywhere else for that matter) who have nothing better to do than get under people's skin just for the heck of it.  Step up and be the better person- ignore it.  It's nothing new, Pogo is aware of the concerns, you might as well take care of it yourself.

But an adult shouldn't have to turn off chat, let alone in a game room, of spades, in which it can be benificial to have chat on to talk to your partners.
The guy has been blocked from my email, do you think I wish to keep recieving these stupid emails? Just dont understand where, or how it got it. As far as I can tell it is not in my profile.
Truely just venting here ya know!!
Are you a parent? Would you like your 7 year old child learning what a <admin edit: please be careful there are members as young as 13 that visit this site> is in a pogo chat room?
Title: Re: What's wrong with Pogo?!?!
Post by: PrincessKate on April 12, 2005, 04:14:25 PM
Here's opening a huge can of worms, probably....lol.

First, I agree with Barbara.  Amen, Snarechick. 

As far as I'm concerned, there's no reason for a 7 y/o to be in pogo anyway.  But, if they happen to be there, you'd believe that there needs to be a parent at their side making sure that chat IS and STAYS off. 
Title: Re: What's wrong with Pogo?!?!
Post by: Motley on April 12, 2005, 04:32:27 PM
Alas, sometimes it is much easier to throw your child on the internet than it is to take the time and get them involved with what you are doing.  My children are 4 and 3...they cannot read but they sure know how to play simple games like GB and Poppit.  However, the rule is that when I am not on the computer they are not on the computer.  Yes, following the first sentence will take you longer but it will keep your child away from inappropriate chat.  I had my 3 year old helping me can jams and jellies last week and it took a lot longer than it should have but I knew where she was.  LOL...thanks to her overzealousness with the strawberries and sugar, I now have more strawberry jam and cinnamon apple jelly than I intended. 

As for stalkers, hadn't dealt with them in Pogo yet but any chat I deem to be offensive I either:  turn my chat off, mute the offenders, or leave the room.  I don't report people since I find generated responses from Pogo more offensive than the offender.
Title: Re: What's wrong with Pogo?!?!
Post by: GrumpyBear on April 12, 2005, 06:17:43 PM
ok ok ok for gods sakes.....whenever I let the child play, I am always right there. He plays the slots or something relatively easy. He finds it a lot of fun. Since I do not wish for him to have a playstation, nintendo, or any other mind-numbing games at his age, I somehow feel playing show slots ll for 1/2 once in a blue moon is perfectly fine! And yes, i do turn the chat off, cause this child reads so well, and I don't wish for him to learn about anything gross, morbid, or anything negative out of a chat room.
When did this subject turn to my parenting abilities?
Title: Re: What's wrong with Pogo?!?!
Post by: GrumpyBear on April 12, 2005, 06:27:08 PM
yea, ok your right, and I do appologize.
I just feel incrediably ganged up on here.
All because I let my oldest child play Show Biz slots once in a while!
Title: Re: What's wrong with Pogo?!?!
Post by: GrumpyBear on April 12, 2005, 06:32:12 PM
Quote from: Barbara on April 12, 2005, 06:30:41 PM
Would it be possible for you to modify the post?
Done, don't mean to offend anyone
Title: Re: What's wrong with Pogo?!?!
Post by: GrumpyBear on April 12, 2005, 06:36:43 PM
 O0
Thanks
Title: Re: What's wrong with Pogo?!?!
Post by: mtmg on April 12, 2005, 07:54:55 PM
I completely agree with grumpy, Pogo is NOT supposed to be an adult site.  And that fact is this 53 year old Christian woman doesn't want vulgar and foul lang either.  Does it matter wheather the player is 7 or 70, that kind of lang is offensive.  We have rights to you know
Title: Re: What's wrong with Pogo?!?!
Post by: cheruboptics on April 12, 2005, 09:11:59 PM
While I agree to some point about stalkers on the internet, I disagree with the discussion about pogo becoming an adult oriented site.  Although the main adult rooms are uncensored, it urks me when someone cusses in the regular rooms and then gets reemed for letting it slip out.  If you don't like the language turn the chat off.  I let my child play poppit and other games all the time with the chat on and if someone says something wrong.....so the @#$% what.  There are other options besides pogo if you are so upset that the only thing you can whine about is other people and thier language.  Why should we give up our freedom of expression just to please a few people.
Title: Re: What's wrong with Pogo?!?!
Post by: beanie on April 13, 2005, 12:32:12 AM
Just my opinion, but I think that the many freedoms we have gets totally confused with the ability to still show respect, restraint, and just a general care for others feelings also.  I have friends on pogo and like to chat with them, so why should I be forced to shut it off just because others cant control how they use the English language.  I mean you really don't have to be ugly or speak indecently to get points across.  It's just all an example of self control and some unfortunately don't have any.  My brother goes on there just to start arguments and I truly don't understand that.  Its a game for relaxation and fun.  Lets just have fun.   :-*
Title: Re: What's wrong with Pogo?!?!
Post by: Snarechick on April 13, 2005, 12:42:47 AM
To me it's fairly simple, turn the chat off.  I rarely see vulgarities slip the filter unless the user has enough time on their hands to figure out how to get it into the chat- unless you are using "/filter off".  It's good that you turn the chat off if it offends you, that's half the solution.

I do not have children and most likely will not thanks to cancer and radiation.  However, I have been teaching children from ages 5+ for 11 years now and I do everything I can to make the atmosphere as educational as possible.  If I knew that the performing musicians around them would be prone to vulgarities I would a)inform them of the situation with my students and b)pull my students if it becomes a problem.  Same thing should happen on Pogo- you know what is prone to happen, take the steps to minimize the potential situations that may arise.  Heck, I teach college aged students and the educational atmosphere is that of respect and nothing less.  That's just my rules in the classroom/ensemble setting.  If we are guests somewhere else, then we abide by their rules while keeping ours in mind.

As with any site, the site administrators and website owners tend to dictate the ebb and flow of that given website.  If Pogo was that greatly concerned they would correct or find a way to rectify the situation.

Also, the game room tabs start at "Teens".  I don't recall for sure, but most sites require that you are 13 years of age or have parental permission to be using the website.  So either the parent is giving permission and is aware of the situation or the child is out there on the web floating around.  Not to mention that while some may view the site as a family oriented site, there are gambling related games that tend to be viewed as "Adult" games.  

I hate to think that anyone feels "ganged up" on, but conversations are so hard to dictate on something as informal and impersonal as the internet.  Not much can be done until Pogo clues into user concerns, but the positive of the situation is this- Atleast your kids (unfortunately) will be exposed to parental concerns while the parent is PRESENT so you can explain the rights and wrongs of such things.  What you and I see as offensive is like night and day from the next person.
Title: Re: What's wrong with Pogo?!?!
Post by: Snarechick on April 13, 2005, 12:45:02 AM
Quotehow they use the English

;D If you can understand it as being part of the English language.  There's an abundance of illiteracy and grammar issues on the internet.

hukd n foniks reli workz fur mi ::) :D
Title: Re: What's wrong with Pogo?!?!
Post by: homelessdog on April 13, 2005, 02:30:27 AM
How'd he get your email address?  Did you put it in your profile?
Title: Re: What's wrong with Pogo?!?!
Post by: GrumpyBear on April 13, 2005, 08:05:46 AM
Thanks barb!! lol, you never know, he may want to help!! He just loves it! Your right though, he does not spend all day on the internet, and infact has not played online for a week or so now.
We do many other things together, much more important. we go to the park, color, play outside in the back yard, ride bikes, do homework together.
Someone here hit it RIGHT ON THE NOSE when they said he just wants to do what I am doing! He wants to feel more like an adult too, he is 7 going on 27.
He loves to bump me out of the way to vaccum, attempt to help me do dishes :-\, and even help me out with my youngest child of 9 months. Tried once to change a diaper...I don't need to explain the mess that was :o.
He likes to type emails to his grandparents, and play once in a while in Pogo. Yea, I take a risk everytime I let him play games online. I can not monitor what other people say. Really I don't have much of a right to do so, as it is a right given to them.
I just wish people whom want to speak sexually explicit, and any other ways that are offensive, would go to the uncensored chat rooms, or chat in private. Even being a 20 something year old, I find it a little offensive!
Title: Re: What's wrong with Pogo?!?!
Post by: GrumpyBear on April 13, 2005, 08:07:24 AM
Quote from: homelessdog on April 13, 2005, 02:30:27 AM
How'd he get your email address?  Did you put it in your profile?
I do not have my email address in my profile, I am not sure how he got it to be honest. I have nothing in my screen name and or profile that would even give him a clue as to what my email address would be!! My pogo screen name and email address are very different.
Title: Re: What's wrong with Pogo?!?!
Post by: GrumpyBear on April 13, 2005, 04:32:37 PM
Just to put a little bit of closure in this, my son had a wonderful time winning the slots badge! He's amazed that he did it!! Did a little dance when he was all done!
And yes barb, we are going to have some popcorn as a before bed snack/reward O0
Title: Re: What's wrong with Pogo?!?!
Post by: Lady Golden Eagle on April 13, 2005, 05:34:05 PM
Well here we go again pogo, down again. There sure seems to be alot of that lately.

:'(  :'(
Title: Re: What's wrong with Pogo?!?!
Post by: Homer on April 13, 2005, 06:07:04 PM
It seems to be working now. ;)
Title: Re: What's wrong with Pogo?!?!
Post by: smiles29 on April 16, 2005, 10:13:26 PM
just a couple of notes or shall i say my personal opinions.
firstly.    i dont understand why people that like to talk a bunch of stuff dont go to the uncensored rooms thats what they are there for.  i find some of the conversations offensive too.  i dont really care to hear about other peoples love lives and what not.  i usually move to a different room.  i never turn off my chat because of the few wonderful and great freinds that i have met in the strange land of pogoland.  i have however blocked people who i have found completely offensive.  it really works.  when i enter a room where that person is it reminds me that that person is blocked and it wont let me play at a table where they are nor will it let them join my table either (if playing in a multiplayer game that is).
secondly.     as far as children.  i will be 30 in just a few short months from now.  i have a 11 yr old and a 5 yr old sister that stayed with me for a couple of yrs while mom and dad were very ill - they are much better now and they have moved back in with them.  i did not allow them on the puter at all for fear of them messing it up because they have crashed moms and dads puter a couple of times and mine was brand new at the time.  they hear/learn enough stuff from the outside world and have enough crazy ideas of their own they dont need to see or hear it online.  i very rarely accessed the internet while they were in the house or awake.  now when i put my youngest sister in pre-k last year, in the afternoons b4 my 11 yr old sister got home from school, i would play such pogo games as word whomp, tumble bees, poppit, and bingo for teaching purposes only while she watched - with chat off obviously.  i was able to teach her counting, the alphebet, colors, and simple words.  with chat off u still get private chat invites and do have the choice to accept or reject.
this post is not meant to offend or gang up on anyone but to solely lend my opinion towards the topic. hagd everyone.
Title: Re: What's wrong with Pogo?!?!
Post by: Janadra on April 18, 2005, 08:14:29 AM
I have been playing online games for a very long time...many outside of Pogo, such as Unreal Tournament, Counterstrike, etc...  Believe me, a large percentage of those playing communities are under age 16 and I hear and read more foul language from them than I do from adults.   Children communicate at school what they hear at home and in other places (TV, friends, online, etc...) and it circulates through their little webs.  Unless highly protected from all outlets of the outside world, I'm sure most children age 3 and over know a few choice words or two.  The key is to teach your children what to say and what not to say.  Explain to them what the difference is between usages of language.  Not to say people are right for going around cursing to their hearts content in main regular rooms, but it will happen....just as if you take your children to the mall, you will almost always come across a group of people where every other word they say is the "F" word.  Not much we can do about it other than having a good heart-to-heart with the kids.