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That sucks. :(
So, if he was able to view his badges then he must still have an account? He is lucky on that respect, I guess, but it still stinks that they audit over a total of $25.00. I hope I never win a prize then, my auto use isn't stupid or inhuman but I guess they could say I used one because on more than one occasion I stayed up all night due to insomnia.
i agree with homer, that does suck big time. but i thought pogo said that if they found anyone "cheating" (using auto's) that their account would be canceled. go figure. pogo cant make up thier mind what they want to do. your friend is lucky not to have their account banned.
I know of some1 who won a prize... and never used an auto!!! their prize was forfeited by pogo... saying that they had used a auto. go figure!
Quote from: MLT on May 19, 2005, 10:39:19 PM
I know of some1 who won a prize... and never used an auto!!! their prize was forfeited by pogo... saying that they had used a auto. go figure!
sounds like pogo just did want to cough up the money even though they have enough of it ::)
I am wondering if since the person was a "Paying" club pogo member is why they were able to keep their account?
Also, since the prize was never claimed maybe pogo figured they would never claim any prize saving them money?
Well I guess there are quite a few of us here that will never earn that badge. ;)
I got my money badge taken away. I won the prize and badge back in Feb and could care less about the money. I did like the badge tho and thought it was worth them keeping the $20 but it suddenly disappeared today and I will not even email them to ask them about it because it seems like they find any excuse to keep their money whether I used auto or not.
Quote from: Barbara on May 20, 2005, 05:12:51 PM
That stinks. I wish they would let us keep the badges in return for our not asking for the money. What harm would it do?
thats exactly my same thought barbara. and that is a extremely goooooooooooooood question. :-\
If I ever win a jackpot, (which will be right after I get struck by lightninig twice), and Pogo tries to get out of paying by saying that I use autos, which I don't, I'll see them in court.
I guarantee you this... If Pogo (or Electronic Arts rather), keeps up this BS about not paying off on prizes, the WILL find themselves on the other end of a class-action lawsuit. You can NOT conduct business this way, and all it will take is one user with the guts to stand up and say ENOUGH!
I really, really hope someone does win without using autos, is denied, and takes them to court. Seriously, how many people on pogo don't use autos? I know there's a lot, but I think there's a whole lot more who have used an auto at one point or another. I could understand not awarding the prize if an auto was being used at the exact moment they won, but just because you have used autos in the past is really lame.
that sure do sound like they are checkin accounts
I remember a time before Club Pogo when people would openly admit to using xumouse in slots and nothing would happen to them. I know it is lame compared to the great autos out now, if you even consider xumouse an auto. I know this because I'd play in the same room with the same people everyday. Now if you even whisper the word, you've got Pogo down your throats. Most auto users are not there to win the jackpot, just to gain tokens to either have a high amount or go into poker, or gain badges. There really is no harm in that and Pogo should realize these are just games for fun, nobody is going to get rich off of $4999.00. This is a point that has been beaten to death but as long as you play, you are agreeing to their rules. Some of these so-called anti-cheaters have admitted in chat that they've bought a dress in Wal-Mart for their children's pictures only to return it, claiming it was a gift and it didn't fit their child. Oh the irony!!
Pogo can also deny you your winnings if you have used a glitch in a game, ie: the Word jong glitch ,amoung others.
I know of members who have won $20 and $25 gift cards and received thier winnings despite using autos , go figure.
Pogo is a law unto itself.
I have won 2 prizes on pogo... and have had them & badges forfeited!! I have never used an auto.. didn't even know where 2 find them... till this happened ;D.
I have since filed complaints with the Better Business Bureau & the FBI. ( pogo has been a little nicer since then... even had ea.com contact me!) 8)
However, I would not bother taking them 2 court over $25.00 & 2 badges... just isn't worth it.
Hagd all
So did you get your prize and badges?
If you consider it internet fraud, the FBI does have some contacts.
I filed a complaint with the FBI a couple of weeks ago. My wife had her resume on a couple of sites, and we started getting emails inviting us to participate in some overseas wire trasfer schemes that were obviously very illegal.
As an FYI, once I started reporting all the spam and scam emails, suddenly they went away. At least at home. I still get 10 a day at work, even with filtering and reporting.
Here's a legitmate address to forward spam to. The thing I like about it is that you don't have to do anything but forward the email... A lot of agencies ask you to fill out a form, and we all know how long goverment forms are...
SPAM@UCE.GOV
Naaah, this trumps national security. I heard they set up a swat team already and they have mobilized the Redwood City national guard.
If they had only given away that prize!
per the BBB site....
As a matter of policy, the Better Business Bureau does not endorse any product, service, or company. BBB reports generally cover a three-year reporting period, and are provided solely to assist you in exercising your own best judgment. Information contained in this report is believed reliable but not guaranteed as to accuracy. Reports are subject to change at any time.
The Better Business Bureau reports on members and non-members. Membership in the BBB is voluntary. Members must meet and maintain BBB standards. If a company is a member of the BBB, it is stated in this report.
and ea has been reported before
Quote from: Agent Jones on May 22, 2005, 12:39:44 PM
So did you get your prize and badges?
No, not yet... They r currently dealing with the BBB
I don't understand why Pogo just doesn't give up the pretense of the jackpots or other prizes and just become a fun site to earn badges and talk with people. I think they would have just as many people, and there wouldn't be the grousing about the nonexistent prizes. I have never yet met a single person who said that they won a prize over $50 and had actually received it. Pogo takes a stance that says if they say you cheated, you cheated and they don't have to tell you why they believe it or give you any chance to defend yourself. They are causing themselves more harm than good with all this nonsense.
I look at it this way.....would I like to win a JP? Sure, who doesn't want free money? But, I also don't ever want to win one, because I'd like to keep my account just as it is. I'm certainly not going to run to the FBI about it.
Where do these JP winners go? They probably do exactly what I would do if I won. They get their $$$ and start a new name to get away from all the JP stalking busybodies that run rampant at Pogo.
I don't care that people want the Spooky Slots special badge reoffered from 2003. I don't care that people want to have a pogo messenger service because they seem to be too stupid to realize there are at least 4 free internet services, specific to that purpose, that wouldn't take up precious pogo bandwidth. I don't care that people want to have a special badge that supports head colds, adult acne, diaper rash or whatever ailment seems to be running rampant through their family.
I happen to like Pogo....flaws or not. I happen to like the fact that I can get cute little badges while I feed my addiction to the games. I have had stalkers.....they get bored and go away when you fail to answer them, or just keep changing rooms. I like the fact that I have met some amazing people, including the love of my life, there.
All this.......for less than 10 cents a day to play for a year.
*****stepping off soapbox***** Sorry, y'all...I was just in a ranting kinda mood today. ;)
I understand that, please don't think I was ripping on the cause. I was more directing that to the flood of petitions to hit my inbox about wanting badges to support "insert ailment here".
LOL....he does. He's been club pogo longer than me, so I'll never actually catch up.
He's only got me by 7, I'm getting there. ;D
I'm already there, trust me, even though I think nothing will get a hold on me enough to sit through Pino to get those badges.
I'd be progressing nicely now, but I'm too busy bawling at Home Makeover.
LOL....don't I know it. I just don't happen to have this particular one yet, since I still enjoy the game.
I tend to go to the autos when I'm tired of the games, or hated them in the first place.
277.
Oh yeah, I'll catch him, I'm sure. :D
ROFL! You are the devil, my dear. ;)
ohhhhhhhh i hear that wicked bah ha ha ha....... >:D
Quote from: Barbara on May 19, 2005, 03:09:26 PM
My friend won a $5.00 and a $20.00 jackpot spin in two separate Pogo games on two separate dates. He was awarded both badges on the respective dates. The badges disappeared from his badge album, despite his never attempting to collect the payment. Pogo was contacted about this matter and this is their response:
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Discussion Thread
Response (GM Foster) 05/19/2005 09:17 AM
Hello,
Sorry, but the prize and all prize badges have been forfeited for the use of an automated device used to play our games. This includes the use of any automated devices to play any Pogo games on your account at any time. If you have any further questions please go to the Help site by clicking on the Help button on the Pogo game site.
SR GM Foster
Pogo Prize Admin
Pogo Player Relations
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Pogo does and will audit your account over the smallest available prize. The argument that someone wants to make tons of tokens to enter them in prize drawings doesn't make sense because Pogo is aware of winners and their accounts. This is a player who could care less about tokens and wouldn't think to enter the drawings to win jackpot prizes. This is just proof that Pogo is auditing accounts that win.
I have a friend they did the same thing to and she dint use auto either she has had her lawyer come over check the PC and all so EA has just messed up and messed with wrong person hope they have fun in COURT
I wonder why Pogo says it will give out prizes and then when someone wins they automatically say they are using an auto. If they are that scared that people always use autos and I know of a lot of people who do not use them, then why give out prizes to begin with. It stinks when pogo will not give a person a lousy $10.00 prize, you would think that pogo thought that the person had won the lottery. Well, I think if they want to go through the trouble of being taken to court then they deserve what they get.
I tell you all something that really sucks also. Is when a friend offers to do a badge for you to help you and they use an auto. Even though it wasn't you and you win a prize you won't recieve it. I think thats just down right wrong. I don't see what the big deal is its just a game. Pogo suppose to be fun so who gives a rats ass if people use auto's. I don't see why people who win jackpots or other things should be denied their prizes. If they weren't using auto's when they won then let them keep it. Pogo just needs a good kick in the ass and someone to stand up to them otherwise they will contiue to RIP off members!!!
:D Well, My mother in law won $20.00 in the the jackpot spinner and she received her check today!!! (she doesnt use autos) But, for me, now I know they really do pay out on the prizes! HAGD all!! :D :D :D :D
Congrats to your mother in law. O0
Quote from: Firenbedredhead on May 25, 2005, 02:50:17 AM
I tell you all something that really sucks also. Is when a friend offers to do a badge for you to help you and they use an auto. Even though it wasn't you and you win a prize you won't recieve it. I think thats just down right wrong. I don't see what the big deal is its just a game. Pogo suppose to be fun so who gives a rats ass if people use auto's. I don't see why people who win jackpots or other things should be denied their prizes. If they weren't using auto's when they won then let them keep it. Pogo just needs a good kick in the ass and someone to stand up to them otherwise they will contiue to RIP off members!!!
ITA. That's exactly what happened to me while entrusting a friend to my account. Ever since I feel as though my account has been tainted. Now days it doesn't feel as though using an auto would change anything one way or another. It's already been done without my permission and there is nothing I can do to change it. The fact is, it should have been my decision to make. Not a rant really. I take responsibility for allowing myself to share my account.
Quote from: irisheyesRsmiling on May 25, 2005, 05:50:04 PM
:D Well, My mother in law won $20.00 in the the jackpot spinner and she received her check today!!! (she doesnt use autos) But, for me, now I know they really do pay out on the prizes! HAGD all!! :D :D :D :D
Let her win another prize and watch how fast they tell her that it has been forfited for auto they wont take your stuff 1st time around they do it 2nd time around of winning
Does anyone know what kind of time frame an audit takes? and how far back does an audit of one's account go back to? and will they only audit an account if they win money and or a prize? like if pogo so and so pops in a room where u are and he is looking in your badge collection and sees tons of game badges won all very close in dates do you think they would audit you?
Thanks for any info given
My opinion is they only audit your account if you win a cash prize.
Quote from: Commander_Powell on May 22, 2005, 01:44:54 AM
If I ever win a jackpot, (which will be right after I get struck by lightninig twice), and Pogo tries to get out of paying by saying that I use autos, which I don't, I'll see them in court.
I guarantee you this... If Pogo (or Electronic Arts rather), keeps up this BS about not paying off on prizes, the WILL find themselves on the other end of a class-action lawsuit. You can NOT conduct business this way, and all it will take is one user with the guts to stand up and say ENOUGH!
"Food for thought"
Did you know if you get struck by lightning, then you have a better % to get struck again, before someone does for the first time.
Quote from: katieshunnybunny(rangerboy) on June 25, 2005, 02:37:46 AM
Quote from: Commander_Powell on May 22, 2005, 01:44:54 AM
If I ever win a jackpot, (which will be right after I get struck by lightninig twice), and Pogo tries to get out of paying by saying that I use autos, which I don't, I'll see them in court.
I guarantee you this... If Pogo (or Electronic Arts rather), keeps up this BS about not paying off on prizes, the WILL find themselves on the other end of a class-action lawsuit. You can NOT conduct business this way, and all it will take is one user with the guts to stand up and say ENOUGH!
"Food for thought"
Did you know if you get struck by lightning, then you have a better % to get struck again, before someone does for the first time.
Really? I did not know that... That is some wild and wacky stuff....
As an Aussie player I can't win prizes ( apart from wall papers etc) and when Pogo have their donate your token appeals I always donate so it saddens me that players who win and then are accused of cheating ( even if they are not ) are denied their winnings. I am sure there are thousands of Aussies , Kiwis and Quebecians? who pay and play and are not entitled to prizes.I knew when I signed up I would not be eligible for prizes but it seems unfair that those who can win are hampered by red tape
Hi All
I am in the UK and I too cannot claim any of Pogo's prizes.I don't mind, I knew this on joining, I have some lovely friends on Pogo and have lots of fun.I know of loads of people from the UK who play and aren't eligible to claim..I pay my money to join Pogo anually and get nothing so I figure if the odd person is using an auto and wins a prize then what's the harm? If that's the case then everyone who can't win should get the membership for free because we can't win!! It shouldn't be one rule for us one rule for Pogo..It is unfair.
There's my 2p lol :P
I wonder does pogo use a different jackpot spinner for outside the country that has no cash prizes?
Or does pogo hope someone from another country hits the JP, reset it to $50 and have to pay nothing.
Because I think we the auto players should have an option to opt out of jackpot prizes.
Ok, we cheat, you know we cheat but we still pay our club member dues.
Let us go around hording all the badges and you all can keep your 1 in a gazillion chance of a jackpot.
I am not bogus enough to even attempt to claim a Pogo prize, if given the opportunity. I would probably contact them and tell them the truth, ask to be able to keep my account and go back to getting all those pretty pretty badges.
I would do the same thing Barb...
Here's how far gone I am:
I had a dream that I got a gold BlackJack on Buckaroo Blackjack. With the Jp at $50. And was trying to hit the hand to bust it....
No kidding.
After 4 years of playing Pogo games, I happened upon this site :-* after a hint from another player in a chat room. I probably use it more than I should, and am slowing down :-[. I have heard of many people who have lost their winnings and even been kicked out of Pogo and they never used an auto-play. All they did was use one of the glitches that sometimes allows you to get a badge faster in a challenge. If I ever get caught, I will have to accept consequences. >:( Is it possible to get back into Pogo with another screen name and charge card if you get booted, or must one open a whole new account and identity?? Would appreciate any answers or opinions. Has anyone heard of anyone getting audited or booted without winning a prize which triggers an audit?
Quote from: xanpeter on June 25, 2005, 09:17:16 PM
After 4 years of playing Pogo games, I happened upon this site :-* after a hint from another player in a chat room. I probably use it more than I should, and am slowing down :-[. I have heard of many people who have lost their winnings and even been kicked out of Pogo and they never used an auto-play. All they did was use one of the glitches that sometimes allows you to get a badge faster in a challenge. If I ever get caught, I will have to accept consequences. >:( Is it possible to get back into Pogo with another screen name and charge card if you get booted, or must one open a whole new account and identity?? Would appreciate any answers or opinions. Has anyone heard of anyone getting audited or booted without winning a prize which triggers an audit?
If booted, you are able to get a different screen name and account.
Glitches are not allowed, according to the Pogo TOS.
I hope you never get booted.