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Title: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: Sue on November 13, 2014, 08:33:01 PM
This is the specs for the last computer I got a few years ago.

Now I have $500 to spend at AMAZON on a new computer for my twins birthday and Christmas combined.

The boys play Minecraft and want to be able to download other games to this new computer.

I have no idea what computer to get them and need help from you all.

It does not have to be $500. It can be way less if I get the computer I want.

Please help me pick out one, since I am lost.

I would like it to have some word program so the twins can type school work.

OS Name   Microsoft Windows 8.1
Version   6.3.9600 Build 9600
Other OS Description    Not Available
OS Manufacturer   Microsoft Corporation
System Name   MOODYRIVERS
System Manufacturer   LENOVO
System Model   10091
System Type   x64-based PC
System SKU   LENOVO_MT_1009
Processor   Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2130 CPU @ 3.40GHz, 3400 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date   LENOVO ESKT19A, 9/12/2012
SMBIOS Version   2.7
Embedded Controller Version   255.255
BIOS Mode   UEFI
BaseBoard Manufacturer   LENOVO
BaseBoard Model   Not Available
BaseBoard Name   Base Board
Platform Role   Desktop
Secure Boot State   On
Installed Physical Memory (RAM)   4.00 GB
Total Physical Memory   3.89 GB
Available Physical Memory   1.96 GB
Total Virtual Memory   5.26 GB
Available Virtual Memory   2.39 GB
Page File Space   1.38 GB
Title: Re: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: snap20 on November 13, 2014, 09:36:40 PM
Actually, what you have should be more than sufficient for what you want it for. It surpasses all of the minimum requirements for Minecraft, which would be the most intensive program for what they want to use it for. Are you just upgrading or buying a 2nd one just for them? If it's an upgrade or replacement for what you already have, I'd recommend just spending the money on something else.

If you are dead set on getting a new one, take what you have in your original post and just look for one in your price range that's the same specs or better. The main components you want to watch out for are processor speed (3.40GHz on your current, that should be more than enough), RAM (4.00 GB right now is good enough, but may want to expand that to 8).

Hard Drive space, might as well go for 1TB if you can. You can never have too much hard drive space.

As for word program, I don't know what new computers come with now, but they should still come with MS Works or something like it. if not, you can always go with LibreOffice (http://www.libreoffice.org/) which is basically Microsoft Office but free and open source. There might be a bit of a learning curve if you (or they) are used to MSWord, but it's not that much different.

As far as brand, personally, I avoid HP, Gateway and Acer without question. I prefer Lenovo, Asus and as a last resort Dell. I'd also assume that you wouldn't need a monitor...that might change what you could afford.

I can recommend specific models if you'd like...but I figured I'd start there.
Title: Re: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: Sue on November 14, 2014, 04:10:20 AM
I am getting another computer because our current second computer is old and lags.

Plus it is all I am getting them for their Birthday/Christmas.

I have saved all my BING credits for AMAZON credit.

There are so many computers on AMAZON that I am lost.

Snappy - Could you look on AMAZON for me??? Pretty please.
Title: Re: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: snap20 on November 14, 2014, 02:43:40 PM
Ah, okay, gotcha. I'll take a look now and link some ones I'd recommend.
Title: Re: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: snap20 on November 14, 2014, 03:00:32 PM
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KHO06QW/ref=psdc_565098_t3_B00ASHH59E
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KHO0RGQ/ref=psdc_565098_t1_B00KHO06QW

The first one has windows 8, the 2nd one has windows 7 and 2 more GB of RAM for $40 less. I guess it depends on if you are okay with Win7 or not. If you are ok with 7, I'd recommend the 2nd one.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00K0HMSUI/ref=psdc_565098_t2_B00DEXQ6DU - This one is pretty solid. 8 GB of RAM which, is good.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LSRWCM8/ref=psdc_565098_t1_B00DEXQ6DU
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LSRW8P4/ref=psdc_565098_t3_B00LSRWCM8

These two are another Win8/Win7 choice. The 2nd one is Win7 but has a quad core chip (3.9GHz, which is really fast) also has 8GB of RAM, which is great. For the price, this is a pretty solid machine. I like ASUS...they are on the "cheaper" side when it comes to computers, but for the prices they make great products. It's inexpensive...not cheap. It's nice to see they check Amazon reviews for customer complaints as well.

If I had my choice, I'd pick the last one I linked. But please, look through them all and check out the reviews. Try to take the 1 and 2 star reviews with a grain of salt, a lot of them come from users that either don't know what they are doing in the first place and complaining about "user error", or petty complaints like a mouse or keyboard. Easily replaceable parts.
Title: Re: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: Sue on November 14, 2014, 05:25:53 PM
Thanks Snappy I will check them out this weekend.
Title: Re: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: snap20 on November 15, 2014, 02:14:11 AM
Not a problem, Sue.

I'd encourage anyone else knowledgeable about computers to freely chime in. I just offer up my opinions...someone more informed might have other opinions and can contribute.

Sue, if you have any other questions about anything once you check them out, feel free to ask.
Title: Re: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: Squid on November 15, 2014, 05:24:28 AM
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Title: Re: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: Stinkerbell on November 15, 2014, 09:22:17 AM
I have a friend who needed to get a computer for her daughter for school but didn't want to spend a lot of money. They got her an Asus and they love it.
Title: Re: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: snowflower on November 15, 2014, 05:06:21 PM
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How could you not love this site ... always here ... always so helpful!!
I may not be around as much as usual, but I still come in and read EVERYTHING
and you'd be surprised how much of this info I've needed and used.

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Title: Re: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: disneyland lady on November 17, 2014, 11:55:56 AM
I saw this on Amazon today:

Black Friday Deals Are Here Early with Our Countdown Event
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Title: Re: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: Sue on November 19, 2014, 08:48:08 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-K450e-57328801-Generation-i5-4460/dp/B00KNM55SM/ref=sr_1_12?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1416458841&sr=1-12&keywords=black+friday+desktops This is a black Friday special.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LSRW8P4/ref=psdc_565098_t3_B00LSRWCM8 This was your favorite.

Snappy - Can you compare the two for me?
Title: Re: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: snap20 on November 19, 2014, 10:00:40 PM
Quote from: Sue on November 19, 2014, 08:48:08 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-K450e-57328801-Generation-i5-4460/dp/B00KNM55SM/ref=sr_1_12?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1416458841&sr=1-12&keywords=black+friday+desktops This is a black Friday special.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LSRW8P4/ref=psdc_565098_t3_B00LSRWCM8 This was your favorite.

Snappy - Can you compare the two for me?

Pretty similar actually. The only major difference is operating system. The deal PC has Windows 8.1, the Asus has Win7. The processors are comparable because Intel chips tend to be a bit better nowadays.

Actually, the Lenovo is purchased through the actual Lenovo site and I looked at the specs there. The specs on the Lenovo site differ from the ones on the Amazon description. The PC on the Lenovo site is much better. 16GB of RAM and a 2TB hard drive. That's double the Asus. The chip is faster too. If the deal on the Lenovo gets you under the $500 threshold go for it. It looks like you can still use "Amazonpayments" on the Lenovo site, so you should be good to go.
Title: Re: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: Sue on November 19, 2014, 11:35:00 PM
Thanks Snappy!!!
Title: Re: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: Squid on November 20, 2014, 03:44:13 AM
Snappy, you're the best!  Big hug for helping Sue out.   embrace.gif
Title: Re: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: snap20 on November 20, 2014, 04:16:37 PM
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It's one of the few ways I can help contribute since I don't use autos so can't really help those in the challenges/badges section. So it's a way I can give back to the community that helps me.

Let us know how you like it when you get it Sue.
Title: Re: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: Sue on November 25, 2014, 09:11:35 AM
TV & Monitor Display Technology:LED-Lit|LCD|CRT|Laser|Plasma

What is the difference between a LED-Lit and a LCD???
Title: Re: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: Mayhem on November 25, 2014, 09:17:56 AM
LED is the newer technology - it will provide more realistic and sharper colors + better viewing angles.
Title: Re: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: Sue on November 25, 2014, 09:45:50 AM
Thanks Mayhem
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Staples has these two monitors on sale Thursday for $99.99 each.
I am not sure which one is better but I am thinking the Samsung one is.
Any feedback would be appreciated.



Samsung S24C230BL 23.6" LED Monitor has everything in clarity to easily view all programs!


Item: 170344
Model: VQ9784

Samsung LED Monitor measuring 21.98" x 17.01" x 8.76" is compatible with computers running Mac or Windows and fits into almost any office environment. 23.6" Monitor with 1920 x 1080 resolution includes VGA cable, install CD and quick setup guide.
•23.6" LED Monitor Display
•Resolution 1920 x 1080
•Contrast Ratio 1000:1 (Static)
•Response Time: 5ms
•Brightness: 250cd/m2
•Viewing Angle (H/V): 170°/160°
•Interface: VGA, DVI
•Compatibility: Windows, Mac
•Embedded Function: Magic Upscale, Multi Screen S/W, Samsung MagicBright3, Off Time, Image Size
•Included: VGA cable, Install CD (Manual), Quick Setup Guide
•21.98" x 17.01" x 8.76", 8.58 lbs. (with stand)
•21.98" x 14.22" x 1.94", 7.7 lbs. (without stand)



The Dell 24 Monitor is your smart choice for essential productivity features, unmatched reliability, and energy-saving environment and regulatory compliance. In addition, the Dell 24 Monitor offers family entertainment features and the security of Dell's Limited Hardware Warranty and Advanced Exchange Service.
•Response Time: 5ms
•Dimensions: W 22.44" x D 6.46" x H 16.47" (With Stand)
•Viewing Angles: 160 horizontal / 170 vertical viewing angles
•In-plane switching, anti-glare
•Wieght (with stand and cables) : 9.88 lbs
•Warranty: 3 years (parts and labor)
Title: Re: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: snap20 on November 25, 2014, 01:41:10 PM
If you have the model number of the Dell, do a google search with the model number in quotes and then something like 'review' (without quotes) next to it. Read what some others have to say about it. Try to avoid places like Dell itself and take some reviews with a grain of salt, as most companies pay people to give good reviews of their products. Best places to read real experiences is tech forums and audio/video forums. They are usually real, active users of the products.

I have a Samsung LCD monitor I've had for a few years now, and it's been great. I actually still have no dead/bad pixels and use it multiple hours every day. Also have a Samsung HDTV (plasma) and very happy with it. Samsung makes some great monitors/tvs.
Title: Re: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: snap20 on November 25, 2014, 02:06:53 PM
Did a quick look around and if it's the Dell "E2414Hr" then it gets very good reviews it seems. Same goes for the Samsung though. Might come down to preference by you. Does the Samsung have a 3 year warranty too? That might be the only determining factor, I would think.
Title: Re: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: disneyland lady on November 26, 2014, 04:21:16 AM
I don't know what either are like computerwise as I have not had them but I can tell you that Dell would call me once month because my son gave out MY number when purchasing. And he could afford the payments as he is an M.D. - he just did not like to pay his bills and their late fee was $60 a month! I even gave them his home and work numbers (and even 911 since he is the Coroner for the city) but they kept calling me. I would explain every month that first - they are giving out too much info when calling and they are NOT even calling the zip code he lives in provable very easy by looking at his address. My son swore to me that he did not give out my number (nose is growing) and he said he called them and had that removed but it was not until he paid it all off months later that they quit calling. I always pay in full for large thing but I will never buy Dell just because they do not care that they are bothering someones mother! I can't believe that Dell has a $60 late charge!
Title: Re: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: Squid on November 26, 2014, 04:57:04 AM
I think that the rate of delinquency on accounts is so great that they will continue to call anyone who is connected to the debtor and will answer the phone.  It's as though they've recruited you to fight for their side by applying social pressure to get the debtor to pay up.  I hate to admit it but if someone owed me the money for months and months, I would keep calling. 
Title: Re: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: Sue on November 26, 2014, 05:02:17 AM
Another computer question.

I have a password for signing into my computer.

Well yesterday I opened HOMEGROUP for the very first time.
It made me sign into Microsoft with my Microsoft password.

When I went to turn on my computer this morning... lo and behold it now shows my email address and wants my Microsoft password.
I do not want to sign in with my Microsoft password since it is longer.
I want my normal password to be the sign in password like it was.

I tried deleting the homegroup but the password for sign in did not go back to my original password.

I even looked into restoring my computer to a previous time but was afraid to try it.

Please help me get this figured out.
Title: Re: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: Sue on November 26, 2014, 12:14:58 PM
This is the computer that I decided I wanted for the twins.
But when I went to order it they would not let me use my amazon gift cards cause it was basically from the Lenovo website.

http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-K450e-57328801-Generation-i5-4460/dp/B00KNM55SM/ref=sr_1_12?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1416458841&sr=1-12&keywords=black+friday+desktops

So now I need help finding a computer that is strictly sold by Amazon that is comparable to price ($500) and specs to the one I really wanted.

So Snappy I need your help again.
Title: Re: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: snap20 on November 26, 2014, 12:39:38 PM
Quote from: Sue on November 26, 2014, 05:02:17 AM
Another computer question.

I have a password for signing into my computer.

Well yesterday I opened HOMEGROUP for the very first time.
It made me sign into Microsoft with my Microsoft password.

When I went to turn on my computer this morning... lo and behold it now shows my email address and wants my Microsoft password.
I do not want to sign in with my Microsoft password since it is longer.
I want my normal password to be the sign in password like it was.

I tried deleting the homegroup but the password for sign in did not go back to my original password.

I even looked into restoring my computer to a previous time but was afraid to try it.

Please help me get this figured out.

I don't have much (any) experience with this so, shooting in the dark unless someone else can chime in. I'm assuming you're using Win7. Did you try leaving the homegroup? Info for that can be found here - http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/leave-a-homegroup

It says you leave the homegroup...and if everyone leaves the homegroup the homegroup will be deleted.

Can you just change your login password? info for that here - http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/change-windows-password#change-windows-password=windows-7

i would think once your homegroup is removed, it's easier to just change your password back to whatever you want it to be. Unless I'm missing something in your post...if I am, please let me know.
Title: Re: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: snap20 on November 26, 2014, 01:07:03 PM
Quote from: Sue on November 26, 2014, 12:14:58 PM
This is the computer that I decided I wanted for the twins.
But when I went to order it they would not let me use my amazon gift cards cause it was basically from the Lenovo website.

http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-K450e-57328801-Generation-i5-4460/dp/B00KNM55SM/ref=sr_1_12?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1416458841&sr=1-12&keywords=black+friday+desktops

So now I need help finding a computer that is strictly sold by Amazon that is comparable to price ($500) and specs to the one I really wanted.

So Snappy I need your help again.

Well that's dumb that they brag you can use "Amazon Payments" but that really only means you can use a credit card attributed to your Amazon account...not use Amazon gift cards. Figures.

Anyway, you aren't going to find anything that good for that price. That really is a great price for that PC. Best I can find for under $500 is:

This one I'm not sure if you can use Amazon giftcards for, but it's pretty good. Shipping isn't included. It has an HD graphics card, if that's important to you.
http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-IdeaCentre-57315561-Desktop-Processor/dp/B00CPZJJFK/ref=sr_1_12?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1417035185&sr=1-12

This is basically the same computer as above, but it doesn't have the HD graphics card, it's from Amazon, and uses Win7 rather than Win8. But it is cheaper.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KHO0RGQ/ref=psdc_565098_t1_B00CPZJJFK

If you don't mind Dell, this is a pretty solid option. The chip is comparable to the Lenovo you wanted to get, but the RAM and hard drive space is half as much at 8GB and 1TB, which is still plenty. HD graphics available on this one too -
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00K0HMSUI/ref=psdc_565098_t1_B00M82HZRE

This Lenovo is pretty solid too. it isn't sold by Amazon, but it is fulfilled by Amazon, so gift cards should work, I think.
http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-IdeaCentre-Desktop-57324741-Black/dp/B00JOLW41O/ref=sr_1_6?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1417035089&sr=1-6

Overall, I'd place the Dell first based on specifications. But I've lost most of my patience with Dell at this point. I refuse to buy anything from them directly anymore as their customer service has gotten non-existent. This one wouldn't be through Dell, but through Amazon, so that would make me consider it at the least. View them all, think it over. Write down specs to compare if you have to. Let us know if you have any questions specifically.
Title: Re: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: Squid on November 26, 2014, 01:44:33 PM
I just used all my Amazon gift cards on a purchase that was through Amazon but with a different company and it all went through just fine.
Title: Re: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: Sue on November 26, 2014, 02:25:33 PM
Quote from: snap20 on November 26, 2014, 12:39:38 PM
I don't have much (any) experience with this so, shooting in the dark unless someone else can chime in. I'm assuming you're using Win7. Did you try leaving the homegroup? Info for that can be found here - http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/leave-a-homegroup

It says you leave the homegroup...and if everyone leaves the homegroup the homegroup will be deleted.

Can you just change your login password? info for that here - http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/change-windows-password#change-windows-password=windows-7

i would think once your homegroup is removed, it's easier to just change your password back to whatever you want it to be. Unless I'm missing something in your post...if I am, please let me know.

I am using windows 8.1

I did delete the homepage but it didn't revert my sign-in password back to what it was.

It wont let me change the password back to what I had cause it wont let you re-use an old password.

The only thing I thought would help is reverting to an earlier date on my computer but I have not tried it cause I did not want to screw things up.
Title: Re: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: snap20 on November 26, 2014, 03:36:54 PM
Quote from: Squid on November 26, 2014, 01:44:33 PM
I just used all my Amazon gift cards on a purchase that was through Amazon but with a different company and it all went through just fine.

So any of the links I provide should work. Shame that the Lenovo Sue was going to get was only being advertised on Amazon. That's really stupid, but not surprising given the hold Amazon has on internet sales.

Quote from: Sue on November 26, 2014, 02:25:33 PM
I am using windows 8.1

I did delete the homepage but it didn't revert my sign-in password back to what it was.

It wont let me change the password back to what I had cause it wont let you re-use an old password.

The only thing I thought would help is reverting to an earlier date on my computer but I have not tried it cause I did not want to screw things up.

I don't use restore on my PC so can't really comment on how to do that or use it.

You can change the option to reuse an old password. Check out this post - http://www.eightforums.com/general-support/48562-reuse-old-password.html#post394893
Title: Re: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: Sue on November 27, 2014, 02:11:36 PM
What is the difference between windows 7 and windows 8?
Title: Re: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: Sue on November 27, 2014, 08:15:54 PM
This is what I bought last time.

This is offered in Staples AD this week for $379.99 Save $100 Reg. Price $479.99
But I have a coupon for an additional $75.00 off to bring it down to $304.99
Item: 985091
Model: 57311597

Lenovo H430 offers an affordable PC with everything that the whole family needs!
The Lenovo H430 desktop computer offers a host of entertainment features, all at a very reasonable price. Thanks to the smart performance of the 2nd generation Intel® Core™ i3 processor, it can handle many popular game titles with ease. It is equally good for web browsing, homework, video playback or editing photo albums. All this makes it an ideal PC for the whole family.
•2nd generation Intel® Core™ i3-2130 3.4GHz 3MB Cache Processor
•4GB DDR3 1333 MHz Memory
•1TB SATA Hard Drive
•Integrated slot-in DVD reader/writer Optical Drive
•Windows 8

Specifications
Desktop Warranty 1 year
Desktop Video Memory shared
Desktop CPU Cache 3MB
Desktop Processor Speed 3.4GHz
Desktop Power n/a
Desktop Audio Up to 5.1 channel surround sound support
Desktop Media Card Reader 6in1 (SD, SDHC, MS, MS-Pro, MMC, MMC Plus)
Desktop Optical Drive Integrated slot-in DVD reader/writer
Desktop Hard Drive Speed SATA
Desktop Hard Drive Size 1TB
Desktop Memory Type DDR3 1333MHz
Desktop Memory Expandable 8GB
Desktop Memory RAM 4GB
Desktop Processor 2nd generation Intel Core i3-2130
Desktop Hard Drive Type n/a
Desktop Special Feature Lenovo Rescue System
Desktop Other Ports headphone, mic, HDMI
Desktop USB Ports 4 x USB 2.0 (rear), 2 x USB 2.0 (front)
Desktop Weight 17.6 lbs
Desktop Dimensions (L x W x H) 17" x 14.5" x 6.8"
Desktop Video Graphics Integrated Intel HD graphics
Desktop LAN Data Transfer Rate 10/100/1000M Ethernet
Desktop Operating System Genuine Windows 8
Desktop Network Card n/a
All in One Desktop No
Desktop Includes Monitor No
Desktop Use Entertainment
Desktop Refurbished No
Touch Screen Enabled No
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http://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-i3647-2309BK-Desktop-Processor/dp/B00K0HMRH2/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1417147535&sr=1-2&keywords=dell+desktop+computers

Intel Core i3-4150 Processor
•4GB DDR3
•1 TB Hard Drive
•Windows 8.1

Technical Details

Screen Resolution No monitor included.
Processor 3.5 GHz Intel Core i3 
RAM 4 GB DDR3 
Hard Drive 1024 GB
Number of USB 2.0 Ports  4
Number of USB 3.0 Ports  2

Other Technical Details 

Brand Name Dell
Series Dell Inspiron
Item model number i3647-2309BK
Operating System Windows 8
Item Weight 15.9 pounds
Item Dimensions L x W x H 19.88 x 15.39 x 10.32 inches
Processor Brand Intel
Hard Drive Rotational Speed 7200 RPM

ASIN B00K0HMRH2
Customer Reviews 
4.4 out of 5 stars See all reviews  18 reviews
4.4 out of 5 stars

Best Sellers Rank #221 in Computers & Accessories (See top 100) #4 in Computers & Accessories > Desktops

Shipping Weight 19.7 pounds (View shipping rates and policies)
Shipping This item is also available for shipping to select countries outside the U.S.
Date First Available May 1, 2014

How does this one compare to the one I bought last time???
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Today I bought this off of AMAZON so I have around $350 to spend on a computer. Would be willing to go to $450.

Toshiba 50L1400U 50-Inch 1080p 60Hz LED TV

Total Before Tax: $199.00
Estimated Tax:    $0.00
Gift Card:    -$199.00

Order Total:   $0.00
Title: Re: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: snap20 on November 27, 2014, 09:18:49 PM
Sue the Dell is pretty much the same computer you bought last time. Only real difference is that the Dell has a wireless internet card, the Lenovo didn't. Same hard drive, RAM, basically the same processor.

The Lenovo you have is Win8 and the new Dell would be Win8.1, so really no learning curve there at all. Win7 and Win8 are quite different initially, but Win8(.1) can be changed to make it look more like 7 if you need it that way. Since your Lenovo is 8 I would think you already know how to use that then, right?

I say go for it on the Dell if you are fine with basically the same computer as far as specs go. It shouldn't have any issues with anything you want it for. Games should be fine on it for sure.
Title: Re: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: Sue on November 28, 2014, 05:31:07 PM
Intel Pentium Processor G3240 (3M Cache, 3.1GHz) Processor 3.1 GHz(3 MB cache)

Processor - 4th Generation Intel Core i5-4460 (3.20GHz 1600MHz 6MB) This is the Lenovo I wanted


Processor 3.5 GHz Intel Core i3  Price: $349.99  & FREE Shipping.  This is a Dell
http://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-i3647-2309BK-Desktop-Processor/dp/B00K0HMRH2/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1417147535&sr=1-2&keywords=dell+desktop+computers


•2nd generation Intel® Core™ i3-2130 3.4GHz 3MB Cache Processor For the one I already own.


What is the difference between these three?
Title: Re: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: snap20 on November 28, 2014, 08:00:32 PM
Really the only difference is the cache size for the processor. The more cache, the faster the PC will be, at least that's my understanding of it. I don't really know a whole lot about chips, other than speed (3.0+GHz is preferable now days) and that a 6MB cache chip will be "faster" than a 3MB cache chip. But also more expensive. The cache number is basically the same thing as RAM, but it stores it in the processor rather than using the RAM itself because it's faster that way.

Bottom line, 6 is "faster" than 3 for multitasking, but it's doubtful you'd notice it unless you are running intensive programs at the same time as each other.
Title: Re: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: Sue on November 28, 2014, 08:58:25 PM
I know on my Lenovo I usually have 10-20 windows open and I don't have any problems 99% of the time.
Mostly just websites like pogocheats, facebook, yahoo, and yahoo mail.
Title: Re: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: snap20 on November 28, 2014, 09:55:12 PM
Yeah, that's all with one (or two) browsers though, right? I'm talking more like having multiple programs open at once, that are intensive. Like Photoshop or MS-Access and others all open at the same time. The only slow downs you'd have with multiple internet windows is due to the browser itself, most likely, and/or the speed of your internet connection.
Title: Re: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: Sue on November 29, 2014, 03:25:16 AM
Ok thanks.
Title: Re: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: snap20 on November 29, 2014, 02:42:52 PM
if anyone knows more about processors, please chime in. Now that I think about it, the processor cache would only matter with commonly accessed/used data such as operating system itself. Everything else would go through the RAM.

if the PC you choose has 4GB of RAM, you might want to consider upgrading that to 8 though. It's really easy to install...instructions are all over the net (with pictures). if it comes to that, I can help you pick out the right RAM and find detailed instructions. Just feel free to ask.
Title: Re: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: disneyland lady on November 30, 2014, 04:34:29 AM
My hands are a painful issue as the day goes by so I hated that Win 8.1 makes you keep signing in. Found this and it works - mine automatically signs me me each time it boots:


Swipe in from the right edge of the screen, and then tap Search.
(If you're using a mouse, point to the lower-right corner of the screen, move the mouse pointer up, and then click Search.)

Enter SIGN, and then tap or click Change sign-in options.

Choose the sign-in option you'd like to use, and then follow the instructions.
Title: Re: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: snap20 on November 30, 2014, 04:39:04 PM
Good tip DL. I don't use Win8 (or 8.1) but there are almost always ways around things like that with Windows. Someone usually figures out a hack for it that is quite easy (or one is actually built in) but most people think what it is is what it is. it's amazing what you can find with a basic Google search, as far as finding answers to many different kinds of computer questions.
Title: Re: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: S1lent on December 09, 2014, 05:39:40 PM
Greetings,
Is it true that MicroSoft will skip Windows 9 and go right to Windows 10?  Windows 8 was a GIANT step backwards for them

ON to the next topic,
S1lent
Title: Re: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: disneyland lady on December 09, 2014, 06:55:00 PM
Quote from: s1lent on December 09, 2014, 05:39:40 PM
Greetings,
Is it true that MicroSoft will skip Windows 9 and go right to Windows 10?  Windows 8 was a GIANT step backwards for them

ON to the next topic,
S1lent

When I did the updates to go from Win 8 to Win 8.1 it was 57 updates and took over 3 hours so in essence Win 8.1 really is Win 9. Because of my disabilities I was a beta user from Win 3.1 (back in 1992). But after 65 of us were so vocal while beta testing Vista, they decided they no longer "needed" beta testers and just released it as the worst Windows ever.
Title: Re: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: Sue on December 15, 2014, 02:53:41 PM
Well I got the NEW computer for the twins.

Just had a few problems...

There was no address bar or menu bar. I am not an idiot but it took me hours to figure out how to get them and make them stay. They make them auto-hide and you have to lock them in place.

When I got the NEW computer, I made sure I got Windows 8.1 so that there was no learning curve. Wrong!!!  Mine is a Lenovo and the NEW one is a Dell. Very different, in my opinion.

Mine has a 20" screen. The Dell has a 24" screen. So somewhere in my mind I was thinking that the print would be easier to see. Wrong!!! It may be bigger but when I go to POGO I have about 5" of dead space on the left and right.

OK that is my rant for the day. If I think of more, I will be back.
Title: Re: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: Sue on December 15, 2014, 03:15:20 PM
Oh and I have a questions for you.

Is there any way that I can get a toolbar for Google Chrome?
Title: Re: New Computer from Amazon
Post by: snap20 on December 15, 2014, 03:20:59 PM
Quote from: Sue on December 15, 2014, 03:15:20 PM
Oh and I have a questions for you.

Is there any way that I can get a toolbar for Google Chrome?
Any particular one? You can install the Google Toolbar, of course. - https://support.google.com/toolbar/?hl=en#topic=3338424

Any other one probably is a case by case basis depending on which one. I don't use toolbars, so not really sure what's popular or used much.

Oh, and by the way, the wasted space on the sites when on Pogo is because Pogo (and most websites) are built for a specific maximum width. The main thing with a larger monitor is more "space" to work with. When my parents decided to get a new monitor, I forced them to get one no bigger than 17" (and square, not widescreen) because they only use it for the internet or playing simple card games (solitaire, etc) for precisely that reason.

You may want to look into increasing size of the text in Chrome and/or adjusting the DPI setting in your Display control panel area (not sure what it's called/where it is in Win8+).