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Spades HD : Win 30 tricks with a Heart!
Monopoly Sudoku : Win 20 games each under 10 minutes!
Word Whomp HD : Find 150 words with any of P, O, G, O letters!

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Posted by smiles29
 - March 10, 2005, 11:11:28 PM
what muncher quoted is food for thought if u really think about it.  8)

what jeffer said is very true.  if u can even comprehend let alone follow what was u know its the flat outright truth.  thats y so many people get in trouble at the casinos with those things coz they know what the algorithyms r and can figure them out and play accordingly.  i tell u what, if it wasnt for the fear of getting in trouble, i would probably play the slots at the casinos if i had the equation coz im a math whiz and can figure out all those crazy complex math equations. 
Posted by IDidWhat?
 - March 10, 2005, 09:55:39 PM
Quote from: muncherPOGO on March 10, 2005, 02:51:54 PM
Just little info even if u didnt use auto devices POGO'S rules clearly state "The use of machines,computers , scripts or any automated system to play the Games is strictly prohibited and may result in criminal liability under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, Section 1030 of the United States Code.

so if you use a computer to play pogo game you are violating the law! ???

I found it funny.. everyone chill and just enjoy the joke!
Posted by homelessdog
 - March 10, 2005, 09:53:50 PM
Haha, that's funny. 

Wonder if they've ever used that to keep someone from winning.  :P
Posted by mn_curvydiva
 - March 10, 2005, 09:32:03 PM
Quote from: muncherPOGO on March 10, 2005, 02:51:54 PM
Just little info even if u didnt use auto devices POGO'S rules clearly state "The use of machines,computers , scripts or any automated system to play the Games is strictly prohibited and may result in criminal liability under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, Section 1030 of the United States Code.

so if you use a computer to play pogo game you are violating the law! ???

That is the goofiest thing I've heard in a long time lmao
Posted by Jeffer
 - March 10, 2005, 07:17:00 PM
Quote from: theoneandonly on March 10, 2005, 03:15:26 PM
And BTW a computer can never be random.......

OK.computers can NEVER be random............ why I hear you ask????

Because they have to be programmed by a human........therefore they can never be random

Not even VEGAS !!! :P

You are almost correct... A program not dependent on any outside (i.e. natural / non organic) random occurrence will never be random.  However if a program is written to use an measurable random occurrence it can return a random result.  This is very difficult and programs such as this are very very rare though.  Most random events in programs are "pseudo-random" event that are based on mathematical algorithms.  You are correct that these only mimic randomness, and are prone to the bias that humans seem to inflict on anything we create.

RNG's in slot machines are even worse.  They use regenerated "random number" lists created by the pseudo-random generators.  They then cycle through the list at a  predetermined rate (about 30k events per second) until the generator is stopped by human action (hitting the spin button).  Thus humans are at both ends of the cycle. Even worse.  "Random" enough to be legal, but hardly random....

Is everyone asleep now??? 8)  Goooood....... :-X
Posted by irisheyesRsmiling
 - March 10, 2005, 03:17:51 PM
:o Oh come on--using ur computer to play Pogo is not a violation of the TOS, i think ur reading a lil too much into the wording there! ;)
Posted by theoneandonly
 - March 10, 2005, 03:15:26 PM
And BTW  a computer can never be random.......

OK.computers can NEVER be random............ why I hear you ask????

Because they have to be programmed by a human........therefore they can never be random

Not even  VEGAS !!! :P
Posted by admin
 - March 10, 2005, 02:55:11 PM
Section 1030 of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act only refers to hacking. There is nothing illegal about auto use.
Posted by muncherPOGO
 - March 10, 2005, 02:51:54 PM
Just little info even if u didnt use auto devices POGO'S rules clearly state "The use of machines,[b]computers[/b] , scripts or any automated system to play the Games is strictly prohibited and may result in criminal liability under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, Section 1030 of the United States Code.

so if you use a computer to play pogo game you are violating the law! ???