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Posted by luvmydogmax
- March 27, 2006, 05:11:39 PMok i have to put my 2 cents in here......I worked at a Target DC for almost 2 years. I do not shop at Target after the way that they treat those emlpoyees.....We worked EVERY holiday except Christmas. I was luckly enough to be in the office so I did not have to work overtime, however the dock workers were required to work 70-80 a week for months on end, and god forbid if you get hurt, you are fired the day that you come back to work. My daughter was in the hospital for 3 days, the day she got out I returned to work and got wrote up for not coming in for those 2 day even though they knew the situation and I had the hospital paperwork and I had never missed a day before this.
There are problem with every company there is, i have more horror stories from the other company I worked for but I won't bore you with them. If they don't want to work for Wal-Mart don't work there. I'm not bashing any 1 just letting you know there are options.
There are problem with every company there is, i have more horror stories from the other company I worked for but I won't bore you with them. If they don't want to work for Wal-Mart don't work there. I'm not bashing any 1 just letting you know there are options.
Posted by wattsmyname
- March 27, 2006, 04:51:46 PMQuote from: Tara on March 27, 2006, 04:47:51 PM
I don't know what they pay at our Wal-Mart...but one of the guys who pushes the carts in the parking lot is HOT !! >:D So I guess what everyone is saying hes broke....... :))
He needs a sugar momma :)) :)) :))
Posted by Libra
- March 27, 2006, 04:51:00 PMQuote from: Tara on March 27, 2006, 04:47:51 PM
I don't know what they pay at our Wal-Mart...but one of the guys who pushes the carts in the parking lot is HOT !! >:D So I guess what everyone is saying hes broke....... :))
Well, he's there for "medicinal purposes."
Posted by Tara
- March 27, 2006, 04:47:51 PMI don't know what they pay at our Wal-Mart...but one of the guys who pushes the carts in the parking lot is HOT !! >:D So I guess what everyone is saying hes broke....... :))
Posted by wattsmyname
- March 27, 2006, 04:39:25 PMI'm not a big fan of Walmart. But in my town the starting pay is $8.20 per hour. Not all that good but better then
Kohls and Krogers both start at minimum wage.
Target starts at $7.50 and no benefits for 1 full year.
Sometimes you have to take what you can get till something better comes along.
Kohls and Krogers both start at minimum wage.
Target starts at $7.50 and no benefits for 1 full year.
Sometimes you have to take what you can get till something better comes along.
Posted by Libra
- March 27, 2006, 02:56:22 PMQuote from: DJ_SI on March 27, 2006, 02:28:47 PMQuote from: foxx on March 27, 2006, 12:52:10 PM
I take personal offense to this. I pay all the bills that you have on that list...and, like you, am not independently wealthy. Logic, common sense and morals all come into play in my decisions on where to shop. I would rather stretch my budget to shop at Costco or Target (...a store that actually gives back to its community, rather than sucking the life out of it.) I am not saying that any of you should stop shopping/working there...thats not my place. (Notice the little winking smiley behind my "selling your soul" comment.)
Women, on average in this country, make 75 cents to every dollar a man makes. That is a fact. Walmart, in my humble opinion, is one of the biggest contributers to the inequality that women face in this country. As a feminist, I absolutely cannot support Walmart. So I choose not to shop there.
Honestly, I don't see what there is to take offense to. All I was stating was that on a single income, I'm forced to do what's necessary for my own well being. Am I hurting any of the "underpaid" employees by shopping at Wal-Mart? No. Would I be helping them by forcing myself to spend more money elsewhere? No (I realize that some of you would say that it would force Wal-Mart to change their business practices if more people did this; unfortunately, mob rule is not looking like it's going to go in that direction).
As far as Costco is concerned, we don't have any nearby. We do have Target though. And that brings me to something I take offense to, the fact that Wal-Mart is one of the FEW employers that will actually hire the elderly/disabled/handicapped. Now, I can't speak for Costco, but when's the last time you've seen as many middle aged-to-elderly people working in Target, Best Buy, Barnes & Noble, other department stores, grocery stores, et al. as there are teenagers-early twenties? They may not have the best jobs, but at least they can get them. Agism is a very common practice, and difficult to prove. Not to mention that medical expenses would be higher for the older employees, whereas most of the younger ones would either still be covered by their parent's insurance, or would cost less per anum.
It would be my guess that they LOVE the elderly employees.. Part time workers that have medicare. I'm sure they're exploited, too. Nothing you can say about Walmart is going to make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
Now, I've got bills, too. Mortgage, car, credit cards, not to mention my $600 a month insurance (I refuse to use an HMO) and I could probably have already bought that flat panel TV I so desperately want if I had shopped at Walmart. That being said, I'll shop at Costco, save for another year, then buy that flat-panel TV (from Costco) and feel much more warm and fuzzy about said TV. I could don't follow the masses. However, I wish the masses would follow me.
I also shop at my local hardware store that has things stocked willy nilly that's owned by the ancient little old man and old lady that have owned it for years. If they don't have it in stock they'll be kind enough (and care enough) to order it for me. And when it comes in, they'll call me and tell me, and then recogonize me the second I walk in the door, be glad to see me, ask about my family while they look for my order (placed willy nilly somewhere). Hopefully, they'll be able to pass along this gem to their youngins. THAT makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
Libra
Shop Local
Shop Often
Support your neighbors.
Posted by SI
- March 27, 2006, 02:28:47 PMQuote from: foxx on March 27, 2006, 12:52:10 PM
I take personal offense to this. I pay all the bills that you have on that list...and, like you, am not independently wealthy. Logic, common sense and morals all come into play in my decisions on where to shop. I would rather stretch my budget to shop at Costco or Target (...a store that actually gives back to its community, rather than sucking the life out of it.) I am not saying that any of you should stop shopping/working there...thats not my place. (Notice the little winking smiley behind my "selling your soul" comment.)
Women, on average in this country, make 75 cents to every dollar a man makes. That is a fact. Walmart, in my humble opinion, is one of the biggest contributers to the inequality that women face in this country. As a feminist, I absolutely cannot support Walmart. So I choose not to shop there.
Honestly, I don't see what there is to take offense to. All I was stating was that on a single income, I'm forced to do what's necessary for my own well being. Am I hurting any of the "underpaid" employees by shopping at Wal-Mart? No. Would I be helping them by forcing myself to spend more money elsewhere? No (I realize that some of you would say that it would force Wal-Mart to change their business practices if more people did this; unfortunately, mob rule is not looking like it's going to go in that direction).
As far as Costco is concerned, we don't have any nearby. We do have Target though. And that brings me to something I take offense to, the fact that Wal-Mart is one of the FEW employers that will actually hire the elderly/disabled/handicapped. Now, I can't speak for Costco, but when's the last time you've seen as many middle aged-to-elderly people working in Target, Best Buy, Barnes & Noble, other department stores, grocery stores, et al. as there are teenagers-early twenties? They may not have the best jobs, but at least they can get them. Agism is a very common practice, and difficult to prove. Not to mention that medical expenses would be higher for the older employees, whereas most of the younger ones would either still be covered by their parent's insurance, or would cost less per anum.
Posted by foxx
- March 27, 2006, 01:59:36 PMYou tell 'em sista!
Posted by Libra
- March 27, 2006, 01:02:48 PMQuote from: foxx on March 27, 2006, 12:52:10 PMQuote from: DJ_SI on March 27, 2006, 11:08:17 AM
Wal-Mart might not be the greatest employer. Having never worked there, I can't attest to it one way or another. But, I have worked in my fair share of hell holes through life, and I know that if you don't like a job, there are always others available. They might not be better, or pay better, but there are always alternatives.
As far as "selling off part of your soul..." I'm with Hades on this one. The way I figure it, I have:* Mortgage
If I can save money by shopping at Wal-Mart, I'll do it. To those that are independently wealthy, or have multiple incomes, they may have more of a luxury of being "morally righteous" shoppers. But to singles like myself, or single-income families, Wal-Mart (or any discount superstore for that matter) can be a benefit. If I can save money on the products I use daily/weekly, wouldn't logic require me to do so?
* Homeowner's insurance
* Utilities
* Car loan
* Car insurance
* Credit cards
* etc...
I take personal offense to this. I pay all the bills that you have on that list...and, like you, am not independently wealthy. Logic, common sense and morals all come into play in my decisions on where to shop. I would rather stretch my budget to shop at Costco or Target (...a store that actually gives back to its community, rather than sucking the life out of it.) I am not saying that any of you should stop shopping/working there...thats not my place. (Notice the little winking smiley behind my "selling your soul" comment.)
Women, on average in this country, make 75 cents to every dollar a man makes. That is a fact. Walmart, in my humble opinion, is one of the biggest contributers to the inequality that women face in this country. As a feminist, I absolutely cannot support Walmart. So I choose not to shop there.
Quote from: hades on March 27, 2006, 11:24:34 AM
depends on the store owners.im sure theres a few places where women get paid more as well.
Find me one place.
RIGHT ON! Another fact that makes my blood boil is that for years now, young women college graduates have tested better and scored higher GPA's than their male counterparts, yet men are still getting the better jobs and making more money. It's a frickin' disgrace.
Libra
Posted by foxx
- March 27, 2006, 12:52:10 PMQuote from: DJ_SI on March 27, 2006, 11:08:17 AM
Wal-Mart might not be the greatest employer. Having never worked there, I can't attest to it one way or another. But, I have worked in my fair share of hell holes through life, and I know that if you don't like a job, there are always others available. They might not be better, or pay better, but there are always alternatives.
As far as "selling off part of your soul..." I'm with Hades on this one. The way I figure it, I have:* Mortgage
If I can save money by shopping at Wal-Mart, I'll do it. To those that are independently wealthy, or have multiple incomes, they may have more of a luxury of being "morally righteous" shoppers. But to singles like myself, or single-income families, Wal-Mart (or any discount superstore for that matter) can be a benefit. If I can save money on the products I use daily/weekly, wouldn't logic require me to do so?
* Homeowner's insurance
* Utilities
* Car loan
* Car insurance
* Credit cards
* etc...
I take personal offense to this. I pay all the bills that you have on that list...and, like you, am not independently wealthy. Logic, common sense and morals all come into play in my decisions on where to shop. I would rather stretch my budget to shop at Costco or Target (...a store that actually gives back to its community, rather than sucking the life out of it.) I am not saying that any of you should stop shopping/working there...thats not my place. (Notice the little winking smiley behind my "selling your soul" comment.)
Women, on average in this country, make 75 cents to every dollar a man makes. That is a fact. Walmart, in my humble opinion, is one of the biggest contributers to the inequality that women face in this country. As a feminist, I absolutely cannot support Walmart. So I choose not to shop there.
Quote from: hades on March 27, 2006, 11:24:34 AM
depends on the store owners.im sure theres a few places where women get paid more as well.
Find me one place.
Posted by SouthPadreIsland
- March 27, 2006, 11:56:16 AMI hate WalMart. It is on the south side of my town - where the freakin mall is. Traffic is terrible and I would rather shop at Kroger. I would rather pay the higher prices than go to a store that does pay there employees different for the same jobs. My cousin being one of the overnight cleaners...she gets much less than her male counterparts and she works very hard. Walmart was one of the place she could work due to her education and her previous health conditions.
Posted by Libra
- March 27, 2006, 11:39:27 AMQuote from: DJ_SI on March 27, 2006, 11:08:17 AM
Wal-Mart might not be the greatest employer. Having never worked there, I can't attest to it one way or another. But, I have worked in my fair share of hell holes through life, and I know that if you don't like a job, there are always others available. They might not be better, or pay better, but there are always alternatives.
As far as "selling off part of your soul..." I'm with Hades on this one. The way I figure it, I have:* Mortgage
If I can save money by shopping at Wal-Mart, I'll do it. To those that are independently wealthy, or have multiple incomes, they may have more of a luxury of being "morally righteous" shoppers. But to singles like myself, or single-income families, Wal-Mart (or any discount superstore for that matter) can be a benefit. If I can save money on the products I use daily/weekly, wouldn't logic require me to do so?
* Homeowner's insurance
* Utilities
* Car loan
* Car insurance
* Credit cards
* etc...
I shop at Costco. They actually pay their employees a wage they can LIVE on (average = $18 an hour). Plus, they have great benefits. Additionally, the CEO (with bennies AND stock options) at Costco is only $1.7 million. Compare that to the $8 an hour average wage of a Walmart employee. Oh, yeah, and the CEO makes $54 million. Another dirty little trick of Walmart is they try and only hire employees to work 35 hours or less a week, thus they are considered "part-timers" and do no qualify for fulltime benefits.
I don't see how anyone doesn't find this morally and ethically reprehensible.
Libra
Posted by ClingFree
- March 27, 2006, 11:26:27 AMOKay ... not flaming ... not being argumentative .,. well maybe a lil argumentative. I live in a small town, without many job options. At least not without driving 40+ minutes. Wal mart came .. people applied .. same ole same ole .. Super Wal Mart came - and put AT LEAST 5 other stores out of business - Now .. those people that worked in those 5 other stores needed jobs right? Where were they ABLE to apply? If they wanted to stay in this county, it left the option of Wal Mart. You're right - people CHOOSE to work there. But given your options, there really isnt much choice. Take me for example - as a single Mom - I can either A) Work at Wal Mart and not have an hour commute each way or B) Sacrifice More time with my children by sitting in a car for two hours - Tell me where the choice is there?
And yes, there are times I shop at wal mart when I cant get things at other stores. Do I think Ive sold my soul to the devil? Probably, but not by shopping there. Do I think Wal Mart is any better than Home Depot? no. Did I work at Home Depot for 5 years? Yes. Am I rambling and making no sense now? Yes. :))
And yes, there are times I shop at wal mart when I cant get things at other stores. Do I think Ive sold my soul to the devil? Probably, but not by shopping there. Do I think Wal Mart is any better than Home Depot? no. Did I work at Home Depot for 5 years? Yes. Am I rambling and making no sense now? Yes. :))
Posted by hades
- March 27, 2006, 11:24:34 AMdepends on the store owners.im sure theres a few places where women get paid more as well.
Posted by Libra
- March 27, 2006, 11:14:43 AMQuote from: hades on March 27, 2006, 10:59:23 AM
oh and libra as far as the "chauvinist" comment..id say the same thing about any guy too.that aws workin in a place with stories like that. :)
There is NO WAY that you can justify a man making more than a woman that is doing the same job. NO WAY. It's just wrong... Not to mention illegal.
Libra