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Posted by justahumping
- August 24, 2006, 04:00:30 PMQuote from: Libra on August 24, 2006, 06:33:19 AM
Where does it end? Enough with everyone all up in my business. I'm moving to Montana and live off the land. >>:D
Let me know when you go and I will have you to pick me up. Not a bad idea. I have several friends that has moved there and they love it.
Posted by damian666
- August 24, 2006, 07:25:13 AMQuote from: Libra on August 24, 2006, 07:23:44 AMQuote from: Just Effing Munkee on August 24, 2006, 06:35:09 AMQuote from: Libra on August 24, 2006, 06:33:19 AM
Where does it end? Enough with everyone all up in my business. I'm moving to Montana and live off the land. >>:D
Just dont wear a hoodie and big sunglasses and send packages out to everyone you hate. :))
* Note to self. Make sure Libs never gets my address
If I don't know your address, how am I ever gonna get my purse? >:D
Ummm. Not going to post what I am thinking. :)))
Posted by Libra
- August 24, 2006, 07:23:44 AMQuote from: Just Effing Munkee on August 24, 2006, 06:35:09 AMQuote from: Libra on August 24, 2006, 06:33:19 AM
Where does it end? Enough with everyone all up in my business. I'm moving to Montana and live off the land. >>:D
Just dont wear a hoodie and big sunglasses and send packages out to everyone you hate. :))
* Note to self. Make sure Libs never gets my address
If I don't know your address, how am I ever gonna get my purse? >:D
Posted by damian666
- August 24, 2006, 06:35:09 AMQuote from: Libra on August 24, 2006, 06:33:19 AM
Where does it end? Enough with everyone all up in my business. I'm moving to Montana and live off the land. >>:D
Just dont wear a hoodie and big sunglasses and send packages out to everyone you hate. :))
* Note to self. Make sure Libs never gets my address
Posted by Libra
- August 24, 2006, 06:33:19 AMWhere does it end? Enough with everyone all up in my business. I'm moving to Montana and live off the land. >>:D
Posted by damian666
- August 24, 2006, 06:24:15 AMQuote from: Unfortunate26 on August 23, 2006, 11:40:38 PM
What else are they going to do to us?? Put a chip in our ... To see how many times we umm... LOL
You better believe it. They want to put chips in dogs and in kids incase the become missing. Next it will be mandatory for EVERYONE. >:((
Posted by Unfortunate26
- August 23, 2006, 11:40:38 PMWhat else are they going to do to us?? Put a chip in our ... To see how many times we umm... LOL
Posted by knightrider13195
- August 23, 2006, 06:36:40 PMmy hubby is a mechanic and has told me that they started this "black box" aka the OBW2 system has been in the majority of cars since the mid 1990's. Any mechanic can download the information with a computer hooked up to the computer in the car. Onstar and Insight systems are also capable of transmitting that information to others also.
Posted by Iceman0007
- August 22, 2006, 09:10:55 AMi heard a few yrs ago that they had black boxes in cars already.go figure they just got caught,lol
Posted by Luna
- August 22, 2006, 07:17:27 AMWASHINGTON (Reuters) - The government will not require recorders in autos but said on Monday that car makers must tell consumers when technology that tracks speed, braking and other measurements is in the new vehicles they buy.
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration regulation standardizes recorder content and sets guidelines for how the information should be disclosed. It also requires recorders to be more durable.
Privacy experts complained that consumer interests are not fully protected and information captured by recorders can be exploited.
Safety experts, consumer groups and insurance companies have long pressed the agency to mandate recorders in cars, but industry has responded voluntarily in recent years. About two-thirds of the new vehicles now produced each year contain the device that is connected to air bag systems. General Motors (NYSE:GM - news) equips all its vehicles with recorders, a company spokesman said.
Regulators sought on Monday to set basic standards for their use, saying that uniform safety data will help make future auto safety regulation more precise.
Automakers have until September 1, 2010, to comply with the notification and other requirements in the new regulation, if they choose to equip their vehicles with recorders.
The rules governing auto recorders, which are similar to the "black boxes" that store information about mechanical flight systems on commercial airliners, are intended to give law enforcement, emergency medical personnel, auto companies and safety regulators a minimum set of mechanical measurements in the seconds leading up to and during a crash.
Under the new rules, auto recorders must track vehicle speed, acceleration, and deceleration, braking, steering and some air bag functions. In some cases data on vehicle roll angle, steering inputs, and passenger safety belt use will be recorded.
Privacy experts criticized the decision to use the owners' manual to notify consumers that the vehicle contains a recorder, arguing that many people do not look at it. They also raised concerns that data could be misused for legal or insurance purposes.
"They basically punted on the privacy issues," Jay Stanley, a privacy expert with the American Civil Liberties Union, said of the NHTSA regulation. "This is a technology that is powerful and rapidly advancing and we need to bring our laws up to date."
Rae Tyson, a NHTSA spokesman, said the owner's manual is suitable for notifying consumers and stressed that recorder information is private property that cannot be downloaded without permission of the vehicle owner.
Tyson said most privacy concerns should be addressed by the courts and Congress, not by NHTSA.
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration regulation standardizes recorder content and sets guidelines for how the information should be disclosed. It also requires recorders to be more durable.
Privacy experts complained that consumer interests are not fully protected and information captured by recorders can be exploited.
Safety experts, consumer groups and insurance companies have long pressed the agency to mandate recorders in cars, but industry has responded voluntarily in recent years. About two-thirds of the new vehicles now produced each year contain the device that is connected to air bag systems. General Motors (NYSE:GM - news) equips all its vehicles with recorders, a company spokesman said.
Regulators sought on Monday to set basic standards for their use, saying that uniform safety data will help make future auto safety regulation more precise.
Automakers have until September 1, 2010, to comply with the notification and other requirements in the new regulation, if they choose to equip their vehicles with recorders.
The rules governing auto recorders, which are similar to the "black boxes" that store information about mechanical flight systems on commercial airliners, are intended to give law enforcement, emergency medical personnel, auto companies and safety regulators a minimum set of mechanical measurements in the seconds leading up to and during a crash.
Under the new rules, auto recorders must track vehicle speed, acceleration, and deceleration, braking, steering and some air bag functions. In some cases data on vehicle roll angle, steering inputs, and passenger safety belt use will be recorded.
Privacy experts criticized the decision to use the owners' manual to notify consumers that the vehicle contains a recorder, arguing that many people do not look at it. They also raised concerns that data could be misused for legal or insurance purposes.
"They basically punted on the privacy issues," Jay Stanley, a privacy expert with the American Civil Liberties Union, said of the NHTSA regulation. "This is a technology that is powerful and rapidly advancing and we need to bring our laws up to date."
Rae Tyson, a NHTSA spokesman, said the owner's manual is suitable for notifying consumers and stressed that recorder information is private property that cannot be downloaded without permission of the vehicle owner.
Tyson said most privacy concerns should be addressed by the courts and Congress, not by NHTSA.